Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[Sheilbh]

Though I think someone wrote that during Blair's pomp?

[Syt]

 

[crazy canuck]

Surprisingly given the differences in systems, the shortest tenured PM still had a longer term than the shortest tenured American President. Guess when you die 31 days into office that is a record that is hard to beat.

One of the strengths of the parliamentary system over the US system. You need to wait for a president to die.

[Sheilbh]

It is incredible to be so catastrophic that you have to resign after 44 days - not out of a sense of shame but because you've fucked up so much your internal party/parliamentary support has collapsed.

It's like living someone else's (and the entire country's) anxiety nightmare.

[OttoVonBismarck]

Fair but I didn't think Cato were that Trumpy? I thought they were just very, very libertarian.

They were propped up by the Koch brothers (especially the one who has since died), but Cato is definitely a neoliberal / libertarian think tank, they actually are in an increasingly awkward position because the Republican party went in a direction I think they never expected--doubling down on cultural conservatism, but showing little fealty to neoliberals or free trade, with the way the GOP is shifting it won't be surprising to me if by the end of this decade the Democrats actually are closer on economic policy to Cato's positions than the GOP is.

[celedhring]

Surprisingly given the differences in systems, the shortest tenured PM still had a longer term than the shortest tenured American President. Guess when you die 31 days into office that is a record that is hard to beat.

Spain likes democracy so much, that during our first ever democratic government (1868-1874) we had like 20 presidents in 6 years.

[mongers]

It is incredible to be so catastrophic that you have to resign after 44 days - not out of a sense of shame but because you've fucked up so much your internal party/parliamentary support has collapsed.

It's like living someone else's (and the entire country's) anxiety nightmare.

It's a new benchmark, she'llgo down in history, solely for being the worst Prime Minister in history, an attribution that might last decades, even centuries?

[The Brain]

She didn't manage to do much damage though.

[OttoVonBismarck]

Right, I view David Cameron to be a bigger disaster than she was--Truss is a political failure but her premiership didn't harm the country in ways that might prove irrevocable.

[Valmy]

Fair but I didn't think Cato were that Trumpy? I thought they were just very, very libertarian.

They were propped up by the Koch brothers (especially the one who has since died), but Cato is definitely a neoliberal / libertarian think tank, they actually are in an increasingly awkward position because the Republican party went in a direction I think they never expected--doubling down on cultural conservatism, but showing little fealty to neoliberals or free trade, with the way the GOP is shifting it won't be surprising to me if by the end of this decade the Democrats actually are closer on economic policy to Cato's positions than the GOP is.

The Democrats have retreated on neo-liberalism as well. Obama and Hillary were big supporters but the party has gone on to adopt protectionist nationalist policies since then. The most recent rather shocking example was Biden's deal with chip manufacturing. Clearly the Democrats identified this as one of the big reasons they lost the Blue Wall and the blue collar vote.

[Richard Hakluyt]

It is incredible to be so catastrophic that you have to resign after 44 days - not out of a sense of shame but because you've fucked up so much your internal party/parliamentary support has collapsed.

It's like living someone else's (and the entire country's) anxiety nightmare.

It's a new benchmark, she'llgo down in history, solely for being the worst Prime Minister in history, an attribution that might last decades, even centuries?

Well, let us hope that its not just a matter of weeks 

[Valmy]

At this point I just think new elections need to be called.

We already had the tiny group of Tory insiders have an election and their mandate didn't exactly do much for Truss.

[Richard Hakluyt]

The opinion polls are reassuring...this is the implosion of a political party not the collapse of the UK system of government. With Labour 30 points ahead the electorate are not so blind as to vote for an obviously incompetent party. So, after some more Tory shenanigans we can expect them to receive a crushing electoral defeat and either reform or die.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Though I think someone wrote that during Blair's pomp?

So there was :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Strange_Death_of_Tory_England

[crazy canuck]

The opinion polls are reassuring...this is the implosion of a political party not the collapse of the UK system of government. With Labour 30 points ahead the electorate are not so blind as to vote for an obviously incompetent party. So, after some more Tory shenanigans we can expect them to receive a crushing electoral defeat and either reform or die.

At this rate there are many more PMs that will come and go before the next election.