Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[Grey Fox]

I like my 6h30-15h schedule.
I'm sure my co-worker like his 11h-19h schedule too.

In a non-shift work environment, on time is relative. Also, your meeting could have been an email.

[The Larch]

In a non-shift work environment, on time is relative.

Yup, as long as you're not in a shift (be it in a factory, or working retail, or hospitality, or others), or work facing the public in a specific schedule, or must be available for others (colleagues, customers, whatever) at certain hours, flexible schedules are to everyone's advantage.

[Tamas]

In a non-shift work environment, on time is relative.

Yup, as long as you're not in a shift (be it in a factory, or working retail, or hospitality, or others), or work facing the public in a specific schedule, or must be available for others (colleagues, customers, whatever) at certain hours, flexible schedules are to everyone's advantage.

I fully agree with that. But, technically with flexible working what you are doing is not "agree to show up at X hour and then sleep in a bit regardless" - you agreed to have flexible hours.

[The Larch]

In a non-shift work environment, on time is relative.

Yup, as long as you're not in a shift (be it in a factory, or working retail, or hospitality, or others), or work facing the public in a specific schedule, or must be available for others (colleagues, customers, whatever) at certain hours, flexible schedules are to everyone's advantage.

I fully agree with that. But, technically with flexible working what you are doing is not "agree to show up at X hour and then sleep in a bit regardless" - you agreed to have flexible hours.

Yeah, and that might include having a certain leeway determining, for instance, at which time you'll start your work day. If you're not a morning person like Tyr, or me, or GF's colleague, you can start your day at, say 10h or 11h, and then you work for whatever hours your work day consists of. If you're fine with starting earlier, by all means get to the office at 6h or 7h if you want, and then leave earlier.

[Maladict]

I was about to go on a rant that you are a spoiled fuck, til I googled "professional job". Apparently a real term describing jobs needing some kind of degree.

So apparently I should go on a rant about my low english skills.

Same 

[Maladict]

I've definitely noticed an increasing recognition of meetings at 9am (or 5pm) being considered rude.

I've seen an actual, physical fight break out over a colleague being asked to do something after 4 PM, even though it was common knowledge this person starts and leaves early. Everyone obviously sided with him, and the guy doing the demanding left the company not long after.

[The Larch]

I've definitely noticed an increasing recognition of meetings at 9am (or 5pm) being considered rude.

Or on friday afternoons.   

I've seen an actual, physical fight break out over a colleague being asked to do something after 4 PM, even though it was common knowledge this person starts and leaves early. Everyone obviously sided with him, and the guy doing the demanding left the company not long after.

I'm now working in a project with several German partners and we've had to schedule many meetings at 14h as the latest because many partners could not guarantee their availability after that time. As a Spaniard who normally has his lunchtime around those hours that's a bit annoying for me, personally. 

[Sheilbh]

No meeting needs to be before 9.30am (unless there's some connection to APAC). I have no issues with afternoon or evening meetings

In a moment of wonderful steretypes and a celebration of Europe's cultural diversity, when Portugal took over the EU Council Presidency from Germany in January, they re-scheduled all meetings from 8.30 am to 9.30 am and the Portuguese brought a big bag of natas for the first meeting

[Duque de Bragança]

Germany is a special case with civil servants starting sometimes at 07:00. Best time to get your red tape done, as a matter of fact.

In France, most bakeries are open that early so one can get the pains au chocolat or croissants. 

[Syt]

I will have calls coming Monday at 1 pm, 3 pm and 5 pm. Normally I finish at 1 on Mondays.

[Sheilbh]

Incidentally the idea of working at 7am makes me physically nauseous - but if that is reasonably common in Germany it definitely explains why Germans are so anti-clocks moving forward. I've seen surveys and Germans really don't like it compared to everyone else in Europe, but I can understand if everyone's getting up that early for work

I am the opposite and British Summer Time is my favourite time of the year (though I hate the week the clocks move). I'm already furious at the fact that the sun is out before 7 but sets at half five and think we should move clocks going forward to the start of March

[Grey Fox]

Incidentally the idea of working at 7am makes me physically nauseous - but if that is reasonably common in Germany it definitely explains why Germans are so anti-clocks moving forward. I've seen surveys and Germans really don't like it compared to everyone else in Europe, but I can understand if everyone's getting up that early for work

That's interesting. I am very anti moving clocks & I start workdays very early. Most people I know that are also anti moving clock are also early workers.

[Duque de Bragança]

Problem with starting early like the Germans is not just moving clocks: most of Western Europe follows CET (Berlin Time!), outside of the UTC +1:00 longitude. In Summer, it's UTC + 2 

[Sheilbh]

Just to be clear my view of the problem with working early is that it's early and I'm a night owl

[HVC]

mornings suck. i have to start at 8 at me job. which isn't super early, but still less then ideal. my favourite was the job were i worked 10 to 6 to cover two shifts.