Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

Started by Josquius, February 20, 2016, 07:46:34 AM

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How would you vote on Britain remaining in the EU?

British- Remain
12 (12%)
British - Leave
7 (7%)
Other European - Remain
21 (21%)
Other European - Leave
6 (6%)
ROTW - Remain
34 (34%)
ROTW - Leave
20 (20%)

Total Members Voted: 98

garbon

Also, what the hell? Conditional no confidence letters?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2018/nov/15/brexit-deal-theresa-may-takes-agreement-to-parliament-politics-live

QuoteThe Tory Brexiter Anne Marie Morris has just told the BBC that she believes more than 48 of her colleagues have already written to Sir Graham Brady, chair of the backbench 1922 committee, calling for a vote of no confidence in Theresa May. But some of those letters were written on the condition that they could not be activated until the author agreed, she said. She said the time had come for those MPs to now authorise the use of their letters.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Tamas

yeah that's stupid  :lol:


Also, apparently there have been 3 resignations today. I don't get this: why not resign last evening? Cowards.

garbon

More impactful news, now right? Can easily then go for media coverage.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Tamas

I guess but it looks distasteful. "Ok ok I agree." next day: "hah, I resign!"

Tamas

Predictably, Corbyn is only interested in helping finishing May off, no matter the cost.

Richard Hakluyt

Quote from: Tamas on November 15, 2018, 05:55:40 AM
Predictably, Corbyn is only interested in helping finishing May off, no matter the cost.

It is going well for him, a no-deal brexit which can be blamed solely on the Tories provides fertile soil for his socialist plans.

Tamas

From an SNP MP:

QuoteIf Northern Ireland can stay in the single market, why not Scotland too?

Have to admit its a valid point. Basically, Scotland (and Wales) are getting screwed because they never bothered to bomb pubs.



This is one of the funnier (in a desperate way) aspects of Brexit: you'd be hard pressed to find another EU member less suited to exit, than Britain.

garbon

Quote from: Tamas on November 15, 2018, 06:05:59 AM
Have to admit its a valid point. Basically, Scotland (and Wales) are getting screwed because they never bothered to bomb pubs.

That seems like an odd reading of history.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Tamas

Quote from: garbon on November 15, 2018, 06:17:20 AM
Quote from: Tamas on November 15, 2018, 06:05:59 AM
Have to admit its a valid point. Basically, Scotland (and Wales) are getting screwed because they never bothered to bomb pubs.

That seems like an odd reading of history.

It's kind of correct though. If there was no history of violence there would be no special mention of NI. There has been little worry over traffic jumps around Dove for example, comperatively.

garbon

But it also misses out on the wider history and integration or not of the various localities. NI situation is part of a wider narrative connected to how Ireland actually became an independent state (something that doesn't apply to Wales or Scotland).
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Tamas

Quote from: garbon on November 15, 2018, 07:16:12 AM
But it also misses out on the wider history and integration or not of the various localities. NI situation is part of a wider narrative connected to how Ireland actually became an independent state (something that doesn't apply to Wales or Scotland).

Well yes, exactly: pro-independents in Scotland and Wales haven't resorted to violence, so they are not getting any special treatment. It is an oversimplification, sure, but that is the key difference.


garbon

I'd say key difference is they are better integrated into the UK.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Solmyr


Tamas