Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[celedhring]

Yeah, I guess the silver lining is that the sooner Corbyn goes down the better, and Labor can start to rebuild. But 5 years of Tory dictatorship is a though price to pay.

[Tamas]

Will LibDems have enough common sense to drive just one single point home: that they will negotiate a soft Brexit if they form government?

Could they even be brave enough to pledge to revoke Brexit altogether?

[Valmy]

Will LibDems have enough common sense to drive just one single point home: that they will negotiate a soft Brexit if they form government?

Could they even be brave enough to pledge to revoke Brexit altogether?

What exactly is there for them to do besides that? They have no other chance. It would be suicidally stupid NOT to play that card.

So no they probably won't.

[Richard Hakluyt]

This election will be fought on the old constituency boundaries as the changes (and reduction in total number of MPs) are not due to take effect till 2018. This favours Labour.

That Tory opinion poll lead might not translate into as many seats as one might think. They are stacking a lot of huge majorities in the South of England (outside London of course), making those even bigger does not help them at all.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Will LibDems have enough common sense to drive just one single point home: that they will negotiate a soft Brexit if they form government?

Could they even be brave enough to pledge to revoke Brexit altogether?

I'm fairly sure that Farron (or "wee Timmy" as I think of him) has promised a second referendum on the grounds that people didn't understand what they were voting for first time round 

[Valmy]

The hopes of Liberalism now hinge on a remarkably colorless technocratic French presidential candidate and the Lib Dems. We're fucked.

[garbon]

The hopes of Liberalism now hinge on a remarkably colorless technocratic French presidential candidate and the Lib Dems. We're fucked.

Hey, he bangs his ex-teacher.

[Valmy]

The hopes of Liberalism now hinge on a remarkably colorless technocratic French presidential candidate and the Lib Dems. We're fucked.

Hey, he bangs his ex-teacher.

Well...yes that is true. I guess that does give him a chance.

[CountDeMoney]

Hey, he bangs his ex-teacher.

Well...yes that is true. I guess that does give him a chance.

That's so French, it probably doesn't even register.

[Tamas]

Will LibDems have enough common sense to drive just one single point home: that they will negotiate a soft Brexit if they form government?

Could they even be brave enough to pledge to revoke Brexit altogether?

I'm fairly sure that Farron (or "wee Timmy" as I think of him) has promised a second referendum on the grounds that people didn't understand what they were voting for first time round 

Oh gawd please don't let them campaign with the promise of a second referendum. Even I would not vote on them if there was the prospect of going through all that misery once more. Oh for fuck's sake.

[Gups]

Now article 50 has been triggered, I don't think there's really a credible basis for promising a second ref.  Best approach from Lib Dems  is to say that they will support negotiations on the Norway model. Which is pretty mush being a member of the EU without having any say in policy-making.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Will LibDems have enough common sense to drive just one single point home: that they will negotiate a soft Brexit if they form government?

Could they even be brave enough to pledge to revoke Brexit altogether?

I'm fairly sure that Farron (or "wee Timmy" as I think of him) has promised a second referendum on the grounds that people didn't understand what they were voting for first time round 

Oh gawd please don't let them campaign with the promise of a second referendum. Even I would not vote on them if there was the prospect of going through all that misery once more. Oh for fuck's sake.

You are going native I see, channeling the man on the Clapham omnibus 

[Richard Hakluyt]

Now article 50 has been triggered, I don't think there's really a credible basis for promising a second ref.  Best approach from Lib Dems  is to say that they will support negotiations on the Norway model. Which is pretty mush being a member of the EU without having any say in policy-making.

The perfect compromise, nobody will get what they want 

[Valmy]

Can't the British just back out of Article 50? I mean the EU would probably be willing to avoid an existential crisis.

[The Larch]

Can't the British just back out of Article 50? I mean the EU would probably be willing to avoid an existential crisis.

It is theoretically possible, yes, and the EU said as much in their statement about the negotiations, that they'd allow the UK to go back on the whole process, but after so many months of "Brexit means Brexit" I don't know how viable that really is.