Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[jimmy olsen]

Incidentally saw a fascinating stat that in the polls so far of the top 30 pro-remain councils only 3 are not in either London or Scotland: Oxford, Cambridge and Brighton.

Edit: Also seen that Goldman Sachs are apparently internally predicting Leave and considering Warsaw as new European base. Which is going to be a thing on Thursday. Exit polls are expensive so none of the media have actually bought one. Several hedge funds have, so the first hints of the result will probably be in the currency markets

Warsaw over Frankfurt or Paris? 

[celedhring]

Incidentally saw a fascinating stat that in the polls so far of the top 30 pro-remain councils only 3 are not in either London or Scotland: Oxford, Cambridge and Brighton.

Edit: Also seen that Goldman Sachs are apparently internally predicting Leave and considering Warsaw as new European base. Which is going to be a thing on Thursday. Exit polls are expensive so none of the media have actually bought one. Several hedge funds have, so the first hints of the result will probably be in the currency markets

Warsaw over Frankfurt or Paris? 

They already have a big office there. One of the people I work for is a former Goldman-Sachs employee and she told me they have been buffing up the place for a while.

[Admiral Yi]

I would think the present government's indifference to the rule of law would rule Warsaw out.

[celedhring]

I would think the present government's indifference to the rule of law would rule Warsaw out.

My guess is that Ördnung commands a hefty premium in real estate prices and local wages.

We'd need to unban Martinus to get to the bottom of this. But who's taking that risk? 

[Monoriu]

Warsaw over Frankfurt or Paris? 

I imagine a firm as big as Goldman will have more than one base anyway.  They are going to have offices in London, Warsaw, Frankfurt and Paris no matter what.  The only difference is how much work each office gets.  if the UK leaves the EU, I can imagine that some of the work should be done outside London for legal and compliance reasons.  In that case, why not pick a location with lower costs and more flexible labour rules. 

[dps]

Warsaw over Frankfurt or Paris? 

I imagine a firm as big as Goldman will have more than one base anyway.  They are going to have offices in London, Warsaw, Frankfurt and Paris no matter what.  The only difference is how much work each office gets.  if the UK leaves the EU, I can imagine that some of the work should be done outside London for legal and compliance reasons.  In that case, why not pick a location with lower costs and more flexible labour rules. 

Maybe they can get away with chaining Marti to a desk to do legal work for them.

OTOH, considering the understanding of the law he often shows here, maybe they'd be better off just banning him from their HQ.

[Zanza]

I would think the present government's indifference to the rule of law would rule Warsaw out.

Isn't that a plus for investment bankers?

[Tamas]

3000 refugees Sheilbh? Wow That was the daily intake of Hungary until they raised that fence.

And I think Orban genuinely wants UK to remain. It has soaked up 2-300k dissatisfied Hungarians. The EU in general turned out to be an amazing tool to build his system: they pay insane money on improvement projects that he can steal and use to build a loyal oligarchy, and free movement of workers is an excellent  pressure valve. Everyone who is not fine with being serfs under his guys can just leave.

[Admiral Yi]

Isn't that a plus for investment bankers?

It's a plus for wealth managers.  Investment bankers need enforceable contracts.

[garbon]

Sheilbh, lets just admit it: if there was a Labour government in place now with a solid majority, you would be voting Leave.

The union still matters. I'd be very unlikely to vote Leave if I thought it meant Scotland would go. Otherwise absolutely, I'd be campaigning.

On the hope that things might be better outside the EU?

[Tamas]

It is funny, that for the far-right accross Europe, the EU is the symbol of the international left imposing leftist control over everything. while for the far-left, in the UK at least, it is the symbol of preventing leftist control.

[mongers]

It is funny, that for the far-right accross Europe, the EU is the symbol of the international left imposing leftist control over everything. while for the far-left, in the UK at least, it is the symbol of preventing leftist control.

Didn't you mean, for them preventing rightist control?

[Josquius]

It is funny, that for the far-right accross Europe, the EU is the symbol of the international left imposing leftist control over everything. while for the far-left, in the UK at least, it is the symbol of preventing leftist control.

Guess you meant rightist at the end there.

But yup.
Its insane.
What is particularly annoying is you see the same people coming out with the two sides.
One annoying one is where euroskeptics in one breath yell about the evil United States of Europe and its ever expanding powers that are going to enforce conscription into a European army (due next Tuesday) and all sorts of bollocks, and then in the next breath say trying to reform Europe is pointless because the EU is stagnant and can't change.

[celedhring]

It is funny, that for the far-right accross Europe, the EU is the symbol of the international left imposing leftist control over everything. while for the far-left, in the UK at least, it is the symbol of preventing leftist control.

It's the same over here. Brussels-mandated welfare cuts have exacerbated it, though.

[The Larch]

Apparently Jeremy Clarkson supports Remain. Now that's a bit of a surprise.