Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[mongers]

I'm not sure that the "retarded, spoilt child" image the UK seems desperate to project is very well thought-out.

But it's gonna bring all teh trade!!!

Tamas, any chance UK nationals might get favourable treatment in Hungary, post-brexit ?

Asking for a 'friend'.

[Tamas]

I'm not sure that the "retarded, spoilt child" image the UK seems desperate to project is very well thought-out.

But it's gonna bring all teh trade!!!

Tamas, any chance UK nationals might get favourable treatment in Hungary, post-brexit ?

Asking for a 'friend'.

After both Hungary and UK leaves the EU and become Russian satellites, sure.

[Josquius]

Have to say. Though labour are a lot less than perfect you have to love their reaction to anti brexit protestors outside their conference vs the Tory one....

[Syt]

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/03/uk/british-pm-theresa-may-dancing-queen-intl/index.html

British Prime Minister Theresa May attempted to shrug (and shuffle and swivel) off memories of a disastrous speech last year by dancing onto the stage to the tune of ABBA's 'Dancing Queen.'

Video: https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1047440571025879040

[Tamas]

If she wasn't a disgustingly power-hungry untalented person with horribly destructive effect on her country, I'd feel bad for her for being so essentially unfit to be a public person.

[Syt]

[Tamas]

 

[Tamas]

The hard-core Brexiteers are yet more evidence of an ugly turn in British politics towards tub-thumping, no-holds-barred populism. The similarities between the Brexiteers who gathered in Birmingham and the Corbynites who gathered in Liverpool the week before are striking. There is the same insistence that "we are the mainstream". There is the same hunt for traitors to hang. There is the same hijacking of party democracy: wealthy Leave-backers are trying to get Remainer Tory MPs deselected, putting up posters in their constituencies saying "Make the Conservatives Conservative again". There is even the same insistence that there will be blood on the streets if the people's will is thwarted. Debating the pros and cons of having a referendum, David Cameron quoted Shakespeare's warning against "unleashing demons of which ye know not". The demons have been unleashed and on both the left and the right they are on the prowl.

[Josquius]

Really hope they try pushing their blood on the streets stuff. Get a few thousand of them behind bars where they belong.

[Admiral Yi]

How are you on Corbyn now Squeeze?

[Tamas]

How are you on Corbyn now Squeeze?

I think he is in the "surely he won't do what he said his whole life he'd do" phase.

[Josquius]

How are you on Corbyn now Squeeze?

No change. Still not big on him and hoping someone slaps sense into him soon.

[Iormlund]

Mate, he's 70 years old. If he had any sense it would have shown by now.

[The Larch]

It seems that English Tories are of the "some people just want to watch the world burn" variety.

Most English Tory voters would be happy to see UK break up as price of Brexit, survey suggests

According to research by the Centre on Constitutional Change, which is based at Edinburgh University, Brexit is "dislodging long-held red lines about the [UK] union". It says a majority of Conservative voters in England would prefer to press ahead with Brexit even if it led to the UK breaking up.

Here is an extract from the news release it has sent out.

    Clear majorities of English Conservatives would support Scottish independence or the collapse of the NI peace process as the price of Brexit

    87% of (overwhelmingly unionist) leave voters in Northern Ireland see the collapse of the peace process as an acceptable price for Brexit ...

    Nearly half (49%) of English Conservative voters do not think Scottish MPs should sit in the UK cabinet and, in worse news for David Mundell [the Scottish secretary] as the SNP gathers in Glasgow, 24% of Scottish Conservative voters agree with them

And here are some of the key poll findings.



These figures suggest that 77% of Conservative voters in England think Brexit would be worth it even if it led to Scottish independence, and 73% of them think Brexit would be worth it even if it led to the unravelling of the Northern Ireland peace process. Labour and Lib Dem voters are much less likely to say that, meaning that the Conservative and Unionist party is now arguable far less unionist than its rivals.

[Tamas]

Judging by the name of the survey-makers I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted this outcome of their survey, though. I don't think any nationalistic person would be ok with shrinking of borders.