Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

Started by Josquius, February 20, 2016, 07:46:34 AM

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How would you vote on Britain remaining in the EU?

British- Remain
12 (12%)
British - Leave
7 (7%)
Other European - Remain
21 (21%)
Other European - Leave
6 (6%)
ROTW - Remain
34 (34%)
ROTW - Leave
20 (20%)

Total Members Voted: 98

Josquius

In other news...Braverman recently visited the Italian-Turkish border to see the militarised border wall they've built there. :unsure:

QuoteI'm a full-blown YIMBY and YIYBY too - my end goal is Blade Runner :ph34r: :P
What about the people who can't afford or don't have the ability to use flying cars? :p

I am pretty YIMBY, but having lived in Japan I also have a huge skepticism for those I see online who insist that if you just toss out most regulations and leave it to the market it'll naturally lead to a good situation. No. This is how you get insane levels of inefficient, ugly, soul-destroying sprawl.
What is the most profitable to build is not necessarily the best for society or even the direct customers.

Agreed on Labour seemingly being all noise so far. Really hope there's something going on behind the scenes to get this promised planning reform and other necessities.

QuoteEdit: I suppose it's all of a piece in a way - I worry that a lot of Labour thinking really does seem to be that the last government's issues were basically because the Tories are bad and nasty. So Labour are good and nice so everything should now be fine. And I think the Tories were bad and nasty - but also that a lot of the issues are pretty deep (an awful lot unresolved since the global financial crisis really) and structural and require deep, structural change.  And again my fear is that like Labour in the 70s (and arguably like Jimmy Carter) if the left can't find a way to deliver it then the right might :ph34r:

True that the Tories weren't just nasty, they were also shit, and being shit but good doesn't really help much.
Not too sure on those 70s fears though- the problem with the populist right  is they're promising simple answers to complex problems, the liberals at least had some thought behind their ideas as disagreeable as they were. The stuff reform and co are throwing out is just dumb and wouldn't work as they claim it would.
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