NCAA Football, 2016

[Berkut]

So speaking of HUDL, I just got my last game put up, and this is the first year where the officials have been given access to review our calls and we are getting graded on them.

I threw three flags on Saturday, and looking at those three plays I think 2 of them were probably not great calls. Be interesting to see how the grader evaluates them.

[Eddie Teach]

Can't we all just go back to talking about how friggin' awesome Wyoming is?

They could probably go undefeated in Spiess's kid's league.

[derspiess]

That is the point. This isn't a higher level. It is YOUTH football. These kids are 10-13.

Well, mostly 8 and 9 actually

And as spicey described the play("decorated")  the hit was possibly illegal by high school rules anyway.

Defensive player was pursuing the ball carrier & was still in the play.  My lineman hustled to get downfield with the play, got a good angle on him and hit him from the front.  Unless you're of the opinion that all downfield blocks should be illegal, this one was clean.

[Berkut]

That is the point. This isn't a higher level. It is YOUTH football. These kids are 10-13.

Well, mostly 8 and 9 actually

So the idea that you had to put in your stud blitzing starting defense to "send a message" to 8 year olds is that much more awesome! I bet you sure showed them!

And as spicey described the play("decorated")  the hit was possibly illegal by high school rules anyway.

Defensive player was pursuing the ball carrier & was still in the play.  My lineman hustled to get downfield with the play, got a good angle on him and hit him from the front.  Unless you're of the opinion that all downfield blocks should be illegal, this one was clean.

Not sure where to start.


Not all downfield blocks from the front are "clean" or legal. You should crack a rule book now and then.


For example, blocking below the waist could be illegal, chop blocking would be illegal as well. Just because it is from the front doesn't automatically make it legal.

Do you keep up with the changes to high school rules about excessive contact over the last couple of years?

Does your youth league use high school rules to begin with?


The rules have changed. Excessive contact is illegal regardless of anything else, and the way you described it (he de-cleated him) has been specifically called out as defining excessive contact, especially when it is coming against a player who doesn't see the block coming.


I know it is really cool to see eight year old kids get laid out on "clean" blocks, but this is a play that we've been trying to get out of the game, because it has a high incidence of concussion and injury. And a concussion in a eight year old is probably (or should be) the end of their football career.


It's frustrating when you see high schools working hard to get these kinds of plays out, but the kids come in from youth thinking it is ok because their Dad-coach told them that was good clean ESPN Sportscenter football.


I would have to see it of course, and you said the call was a block in the back anyway, so not the right call if it was being called excessive.


You said you had this on film - care to share it?

[derspiess]

There are plenty of coaches, most of them in fact, who take the game with an appropriate level of seriousness, who can deal with other coaches and officials with respect and consideration, and who teach their kids sportsmanship, respect for the game, and love of the sport without any need to act out or yell at anyone.

Show me a coach that doesn't yell at anyone and I'll show you a losing team.  Even at the youth level.

An official made a mistake? So what. THAT is a teaching moment as well. And what those kids were taught was that if someone makes a mistake, the way to act is with anger and screaming and yelling. They internalize that just like they internalize all the other teaching that is happening all the time when you decide it is necessary to "send a message" or yell at the official, or punch in TD number 5 and 6 and 7 to prove that you are the better coach/parent/football dad.

After the first offensive & defensive series of the 2nd half, we put our subs back in.  Hell, on our last TD drive we had kids running the ball that had zero game experience as backs.  The other team's coaches accused us of running up the score, but I'm not gonna tell our subs to run half speed.

[derspiess]

So the idea that you had to put in your stud blitzing starting defense to "send a message" to 8 year olds is that much more awesome! I bet you sure showed them!

Sent a message to the other team's coaches.  I actually felt bad for the other team's players, and from that angle I felt bad that we blitzed as much as we did.  But it's still early in the season and we need all the practice we can get.

Do you keep up with the changes to high school rules about excessive contact over the last couple of years?

Does your youth league use high school rules to begin with?

I think we use modified high school rules. 

[dps]

I think we use modified high school rules. 

You don't know what rules you use?!?

[derspiess]

The rules have changed. Excessive contact is illegal regardless of anything else, and the way you described it (he de-cleated him) has been specifically called out as defining excessive contact, especially when it is coming against a player who doesn't see the block coming.

My lineman pushed the kid in the chest.  That's it.

You said you had this on film - care to share it?

Nah. Maybe I'll see if I can do a screen grab or two, though.

[derspiess]

I think we use modified high school rules. 

You don't know what rules you use?!?

I know the league rules we use, and I think they are based on Ohio high school football rules.

[MadBurgerMaker]

So...how bout those latest polls? 

[derspiess]

So...how bout those latest polls? 

It was a fun first week, but man I'm already tired of hearing playoff projections.  Let the season progress FFS.

[CountDeMoney]

but man I'm already tired of hearing playoff projections.

No shit;  it was August a week ago.  Christ, people.   

[derspiess]

Re: the polls specifically, it does warm my heart to see that one AP voter in West Virginia continuing to cast a vote for WVU.  Because, you know-- people there probably know who he is and where he lives.

[Ed Anger]

Re: the polls specifically, it does warm my heart to see that one AP voter in West Virginia continuing to cast a vote for WVU.  Because, you know-- people there probably know who he is and where he lives.

The thundering Turd is better.

[Valmy]

I was about to say...anybody want to talk about NCAA football?

Houston is sure picking a good time to be awesome. Right when the Big 12 is thinking expansion.