Clinton's server had classified material beyond 'top secret'

[The Minsky Moment]

The suicide of Vince Foster and Clinton's server problems are both real events, the significance of which have been exaggerated for partisan political purposes.

The issue with the Foster suicide wasn't that its significance was exaggerated.  It was the (insane) accusations that he was murdered by order of the Clintons who then covered it up. The politically relevant aspect of the suicide was a made-up conspiracy theory.

The politically relevant aspect of the Clinton server problem is simply that it existed at all.  There is no good explanation for it.  The "classified doc" angle may be an exaggeration but even without that aspect there is still a real problem.

[Admiral Yi]

I'm suggesting that this particular article in the OP is such an exaggeration.

Then I'm confused as to why you felt the need to interject your comment into my request to Raz for clarification about his Vince Foster comment.

There's also the puzzling aspect of the Intelligence Inspector General's partisan agenda.

[lustindarkness]

... though Clinton and State say none were marked classified at the time.

That will be her excuse? Really?

[Malthus]

The suicide of Vince Foster and Clinton's server problems are both real events, the significance of which have been exaggerated for partisan political purposes.

The issue with the Foster suicide wasn't that its significance was exaggerated.  It was the (insane) accusations that he was murdered by order of the Clintons who then covered it up. The politically relevant aspect of the suicide was a made-up conspiracy theory.

The politically relevant aspect of the Clinton server problem is simply that it existed at all.  There is no good explanation for it.  The "classified doc" angle may be an exaggeration but even without that aspect there is still a real problem.

It's a problem, but this particular article appears on the surface at least a bizarre exaggeration of it. If merely discussing drone strikes = "top secret", even when the info comes from the news, there is hardly a server in the US with foreign policy aware people using them that does not have "top secret" material on it.

[Malthus]

I'm suggesting that this particular article in the OP is such an exaggeration.

Then I'm confused as to why you felt the need to interject your comment into my request to Raz for clarification about his Vince Foster comment.

I don't need an excuse to post stuff. 

There's also the puzzling aspect of the Intelligence Inspector General's partisan agenda.

It is a puzzle indeed, given the strange nature of the claim made.

[DGuller]

Minsky, what's your take on the whole server business?  I have to admit that I have completely ignored everything in the news about it, because there was 99%+ chance I would just run across content-free drivel.  One side will say that Clinton should be executed for treason, while another side will claim that all State Department employees for the last 100 years communicated via unsecured toy walkie-talkies.

[The Minsky Moment]

It's murky b/c my understanding is that State Dept policy permitted the use of private email accounts for work purposes, except where certain sensitive material was involved and the definition of what is sensitive or not isn't entirely clear.  But Clinton didn't just use a personal email every now and then for convenience; she used it as the primary method of communication.  That may not be against the letter of policy but it contravenes the spirit.  And more significantly, there is no good explanation of why she would do that.  It's hard to avoid the conclusion that it was done to maintain control over the communications record.

[DGuller]

It's murky b/c my understanding is that State Dept policy permitted the use of private email accounts for work purposes, except where certain sensitive material was involved and the definition of what is sensitive or not isn't entirely clear.  But Clinton didn't just use a personal email every now and then for convenience; she used it as the primary method of communication.  That may not be against the letter of policy but it contravenes the spirit.  And more significantly, there is no good explanation of why she would do that.  It's hard to avoid the conclusion that it was done to maintain control over the communications record.

Thanks!

[Admiral Yi]

I don't need an excuse to post stuff. 

Most people assume that if a poster quotes another post it has some relevance to what he has to say.  If you don't want your quoting to be interpreted this way, that's fine.

[Malthus]

I don't need an excuse to post stuff. 

Most people assume that if a poster quotes another post it has some relevance to what he has to say.  If you don't want your quoting to be interpreted this way, that's fine.

You asked me what the relevance was and I answered. Apparently, I was not convincing to you. 

[lustindarkness]

I don't need an excuse to post stuff. 

Most people assume that if a poster quotes another post it has some relevance to what he has to say.  If you don't want your quoting to be interpreted this way, that's fine.

I'll quote whatever I want, hell, I'll throw in some randoms from other threads. 

Jurassic Park's main theme slowed 10x

https://soundcloud.com/birdfeeder/jurassic-park-theme-1000-slower

It's actually a pretty great ambient track. 

Very nice.

Pluto will always be the ninth planet to me!

http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/new-ninth-planet-may-have-been-detected-scientists-say-n500396

[Zanza]

Why would you send "top secret" or beyond information via e-mail anyway? E-mail isn't exactly the most secure means of communication...

[alfred russel]

What I don't understand is this...apparently other government officials have also used private email servers, so it isn't just Clinton. But how is that possible?

I don't deal with anything approaching top secret clearance, but if I decided to use a personal email address rather than a work email address, that would never fly. No one would agree to send me emails. It is just basic data security. One client I had back in the day prohibited any thumb drives from their facilities to keep data from leaving their network security.

[alfred russel]

Why would you send "top secret" or beyond information via e-mail anyway? E-mail isn't exactly the most secure means of communication...

Because all sorts of mundane matters get classified as top secret and they need to function effectively? That is my guess.

[garbon]

I don't need an excuse to post stuff. 

Most people assume that if a poster quotes another post it has some relevance to what he has to say.  If you don't want your quoting to be interpreted this way, that's fine.

I'll quote whatever I want, hell, I'll throw in some randoms from other threads. 

Jurassic Park's main theme slowed 10x

https://soundcloud.com/birdfeeder/jurassic-park-theme-1000-slower

It's actually a pretty great ambient track. 

Very nice.

Pluto will always be the ninth planet to me!

http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/new-ninth-planet-may-have-been-detected-scientists-say-n500396