Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S.

Started by Syt, December 07, 2015, 05:15:27 PM

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mongers

Quote from: Razgovory on December 09, 2015, 06:29:57 PM
My Grandmother's maiden name was Hess...  I think some of her relatives had some trouble.

Serves them right for being fans of Spandau Ballet, one of who's records was a war crime in itself.  :bowler:
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grumbler

Quote from: Barrister on December 09, 2015, 05:00:52 PM
I have been, which is why I'm so surprised you'd ever heard about him.  The only book I can find about him was a French-only book published in 1981.  Did you actually read that book?  If not... I'm just curious - where did you hear about this guy?

I googled "Canadian demagogue."  How else would one find out about Canadian demagogues?
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grumbler

Quote from: derspiess on December 09, 2015, 06:19:03 PM
Quote from: Caliga on December 09, 2015, 05:49:19 PM
IIRC German nationals only.  Japanese-Americans were interned regardless of citizenship.

American citizens of German descent were also interned, but again in smaller numbers.

Yes, but the few involved were detained on an individual basis and after due process.  That's a whole different case.
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Monoriu

I wonder how it feels to live in a country where there is a real possibility that Trump could become president.  You never know what the guy is going to say next  :lol:

crazy canuck

Quote from: grumbler on December 09, 2015, 04:24:30 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 09, 2015, 01:09:17 PM
Quote from: grumbler on December 09, 2015, 01:03:09 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 09, 2015, 12:13:48 PM
...My point of comparing the Canadian experience with the American experience is that we have never had the kind of demagogue Americans have had... 

Yes, Canada has, of course, had such demagogues.  Réal Caouette was one, for instance.

Demagogue means something different than you think it does then.

QuoteCaouette fought for bilingualism in the House of Commons, winning a symbolic victory when he got the Parliament's restaurant to produce bilingual menus.[1] In this, he anticipated the official bilingualism policy that would later be put into effect by Pierre Trudeau.

No, that's not what made him a demagogue!  :lol:

You're right!

11B4V

Quote from: Monoriu on December 09, 2015, 07:54:35 PM
I wonder how it feels to live in a country where there is a real possibility that Trump could become president.  You never know what the guy is going to say next  :lol:

Never a dull moment.
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Barrister

Quote from: grumbler on December 09, 2015, 07:36:06 PM
Quote from: Barrister on December 09, 2015, 05:00:52 PM
I have been, which is why I'm so surprised you'd ever heard about him.  The only book I can find about him was a French-only book published in 1981.  Did you actually read that book?  If not... I'm just curious - where did you hear about this guy?

I googled "Canadian demagogue."  How else would one find out about Canadian demagogues?

Thought it would be something like that.  He's just such an obscure figure.
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Quote from: 11B4V on December 09, 2015, 09:03:53 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on December 09, 2015, 07:54:35 PM
I wonder how it feels to live in a country where there is a real possibility that Trump could become president.  You never know what the guy is going to say next  :lol:

Never a dull moment.

I feel like his shtick is wearing thin. /shrug
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The Germans got it in WW1.

The Italians-American leaders worked very hard to repudiate Mussolini as much as possible before the US entered the war, or at least that was my sense. They didn't want to get it like the Germans did.
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alfred russel

Quote from: Valmy on December 09, 2015, 11:25:30 PM
The Germans got it in WW1.

The Italians-American leaders worked very hard to repudiate Mussolini as much as possible before the US entered the war, or at least that was my sense. They didn't want to get it like the Germans did.

Also, Italian Americans were an important democratic voting block.
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viper37

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 09, 2015, 09:14:35 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on December 09, 2015, 09:03:53 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on December 09, 2015, 07:54:35 PM
I wonder how it feels to live in a country where there is a real possibility that Trump could become president.  You never know what the guy is going to say next  :lol:

Never a dull moment.

I feel like his shtick is wearing thin. /shrug
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Quote from: celedhring on December 08, 2015, 08:08:09 AM
It's like he doesn't seriously want to be president, so he's trying to sabotage his campaign by being as insane and bigoted as he can, yet he's getting the exact opposite result so he goes double or nothing the following day.


Eddie Teach

I don't think you can simply reduce "Trump-ism" to mere nativism. He's a snake oil salesman who's convinced a few people that he has all the answers. Tom Tancredo campaigned on hardline enforcement of immigration laws and got nowhere.

Anyway, I was saying *I* disagree with Mono, Trump is starting to bore *me*. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean other people won't vote for him, or that the press will stop talking about him constantly.
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