Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S.

[derspiess]

Hell, I dislike him a little less as a result.

Your opinions of idiots is way too influenced by other idiots.

I said a little.

[Savonarola]

Trump told MSNBC that people would be asked about their religion at U.S. borders and that the ban would extend to Muslim leaders of other nations. He said he would not support internment camps.

so, he's a moderate, really?

More moderate than Franklin Roosevelt.   

[grumbler]

...My point of comparing the Canadian experience with the American experience is that we have never had the kind of demagogue Americans have had... 

Yes, Canada has, of course, had such demagogues.  Réal Caouette was one, for instance.

Demagogue means something different than you think it does then.

Caouette fought for bilingualism in the House of Commons, winning a symbolic victory when he got the Parliament's restaurant to produce bilingual menus.[1] In this, he anticipated the official bilingualism policy that would later be put into effect by Pierre Trudeau.

No, that's not what made him a demagogue! 

[Maximus]

Hell, I dislike him a little less as a result.

Your opinions of idiots is way too influenced by other idiots.

Well that is his schtick

[Valmy]

I have to admit it is refreshing to see a Presidential Candidate be Hitler. Usually they have to be elected first.

[grumbler]

...My point of comparing the Canadian experience with the American experience is that we have never had the kind of demagogue Americans have had... 

Yes, Canada has, of course, had such demagogues.  Réal Caouette was one, for instance.

That's a pretty obscure figure.  I'm a real student of Canadian politics and I had to google his name (though once I did I am familiar, even slightly sympathetic, to his party the Creditistes).  Do you mind me asking where you heard his name?

There's a book about him, apparently, with that title.  Google the guy.  Argued for shooting Communist leaders, said his heroes included Hitler, etc.  Led a Canadian political party (minor, but once getting 7.5% of the national vote), served as a CMP for many years (Trump has never been elected to anything), etc.

Now, I never said that Canada has been plagued by demagogues, but  I think the evidence shows that the claim that they have never had any is false.  Caouette sounds much worse than Trump, in fact.

[Syt]

I have to admit it is refreshing to see a Presidential Candidate be Hitler. Usually they have to be elected first.

Dunno. Hitler was Hitler before he was elected.

[alfred russel]

I think the worst case scenario is if someone assassinates Trump while he is leading in the polls, or even just attempts to.

[Valmy]

I have to admit it is refreshing to see a Presidential Candidate be Hitler. Usually they have to be elected first.

Dunno. Hitler was Hitler before he was elected.

I did say usually. Actually he is the exception as he was never even elected President.

[dps]

But Trump said his ideas were no worse than those of then-President Franklin D. Roosevelt, who oversaw the internment of more than 110,000 people in U.S. government camps after Japanese forces bombed Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941.

Trump may be technically right--probably barring people who aren't American citizens from entering the country isn't as bad as putting some of our own citizens in camps--but comparing your ideas to one of the worst examples of sheer bigotry and discrimination perpetrated by the Federal government doesn't make your ideas less contemptible.

[Berkut]

But Trump said his ideas were no worse than those of then-President Franklin D. Roosevelt, who oversaw the internment of more than 110,000 people in U.S. government camps after Japanese forces bombed Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941.

Trump may be technically right--probably barring people who aren't American citizens from entering the country isn't as bad as putting some of our own citizens in camps--but comparing your ideas to one of the worst examples of sheer bigotry and discrimination perpetrated by the Federal government doesn't make your ideas less contemptible.

No kidding. What a utterly bizarre defense.

[Admiral Yi]

The Scottish fish lady has yanked Trump's honorary Scotsman title.

Is Trump of Scottish descent?  I figured based on the name he was a Dutchman.

[Razgovory]

People have often claimed a preference for someone who is not a "career politician".  This is what it looks like.

[alfred russel]

But Trump said his ideas were no worse than those of then-President Franklin D. Roosevelt, who oversaw the internment of more than 110,000 people in U.S. government camps after Japanese forces bombed Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941.

Trump may be technically right--probably barring people who aren't American citizens from entering the country isn't as bad as putting some of our own citizens in camps--but comparing your ideas to one of the worst examples of sheer bigotry and discrimination perpetrated by the Federal government doesn't make your ideas less contemptible.

I understand what you are saying, but he still isn't right.

In one case, the armed forces of Japan destroyed the Pacific fleet and were overrunning SE Asia and threatening Australia and Hawaii.

In this case, 2 nut jobs killed 14 people at a special needs hospital.

[The Minsky Moment]

But Trump said his ideas were no worse than those of then-President Franklin D. Roosevelt, who oversaw the internment of more than 110,000 people in U.S. government camps after Japanese forces bombed Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941.

Trump may be technically right--probably barring people who aren't American citizens from entering the country isn't as bad as putting some of our own citizens in camps--but comparing your ideas to one of the worst examples of sheer bigotry and discrimination perpetrated by the Federal government doesn't make your ideas less contemptible.

German-Americans and Italian-Americans were not subject to internment, although presumably under Trump's logic they should have been.