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Whither Trump?

Started by Jacob, December 07, 2015, 07:31:19 PM

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Come the 2016 Presidential Elections in the US, where will Trump be?

Presidential Candidate for the Republican Party
18 (40.9%)
Presidential Candidate in an Independent/ Third Party run?
9 (20.5%)
Not a presidential candidate at all.
16 (36.4%)
Some other scenario...
1 (2.3%)

Total Members Voted: 44

MadImmortalMan

Quote from: Phillip V on December 07, 2015, 11:32:17 PM
Only Mitt Romney can unite the party and defeat Donald Trump.

Mitt should acquire the GOP, reorganize the management, leverage it up and then issue an IPO so all Americans can own a share of the vaunted old party.
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: DGuller on December 07, 2015, 11:24:20 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 07, 2015, 11:07:27 PM
Nominee

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/12/2016-indiana-county-predicts-every-election-trump-fever-213411

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You bleeding over the formatting or the content?

If the first, I've corrected it. If the second, have some more.

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In America's most prophetic county seat, Trump enjoys a diverse coalition of support, from the 17-year-old punk high school student on the eve of his first election to the 81-year-old Kennedy voter to the kind of folks who will reshuffle their Thursday night plans to attend a county GOP "Politics and Pies" event. Coastal pundits might lament Trump's appeal to the "low information voter"—but I can tell you one thing: Terre Haute citizens are anything but poorly informed.

And if Trump can make it here—in this hollowed-out county of swing voters, union halls, three universities and a knot of CSX railroad lines, where voters seem to have a knack for predicting unpredictable elections—he can make it anywhere.
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Vigo County's status as a presidential bellwether is as much of a mystery to the people here as it is to you. It's a local curiosity as inexplicable as that time a few years ago when Will Ferrell showed up here unannounced to make a series of commercials for Old Milwaukee beer, clogging the intersection of Wabash and 7th and walking aimlessly around its railroad tracks.

According to an analysis of bellwether states and counties by Dave Leip's Atlas of U.S. Presidential Elections, "Vigo County, Indiana is the most prominent bellwether of presidential elections in the country—voting for the winning candidate in every election from 1956 through 2012." Perhaps even more telling, noted Leip, is that the margin between how candidates fair in Vigo County and how they fair nationwide has been an average of just 4 percent over the past 124 years.


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Eddie Teach

Being a bellwether in national elections doesn't mean they can predict the nominees- it kinda suggests the region is full of independents and moderates.
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PJL

I expect Trump to be president.

MadImmortalMan

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 08, 2015, 01:03:30 AM
Being a bellwether in national elections doesn't mean they can predict the nominees- it kinda suggests the region is full of independents and moderates.

It could just mean he's attracting a crowd of people who usually aren't in for this sort of thing.
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"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
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Legbiter

Presidential candidate and two-term president.
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DGuller

Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 08, 2015, 12:48:41 AM
You bleeding over the formatting or the content?
The content, of course.  Predicting elections based on how some county you picked in hindsight managed to get it mostly right in the past is innumeracy.  That's pure data dredging.

KRonn

Quote from: Valmy on December 07, 2015, 11:06:43 PM
Oh hell I don't know. I need to see what happens in Iowa and New Hampshire first but damn this is one weird situation.

Agreed on that. I had thought Trump would have already fallen by now but he keeps gaining instead. And he seems to gain the more that pundits, media, political opponents slam him for outlandish ideas. 

crazy canuck

#23
I think the more interesting question is whether his views will continue to resonate after he is left this presidential race.  I think it likely his positions will not soon be forgotten but will live on in the social media accounts of people like Syt's relatives and others who show up to cheer him on. 

Grey Fox

He's going to win it all!
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Malthus

Quote from: Legbiter on December 08, 2015, 06:26:02 AM
Presidential candidate and two-term president.

Why only two? Constitutional term limits are for those low in energy.
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Valmy

Quote from: Malthus on December 08, 2015, 11:17:39 AM
Quote from: Legbiter on December 08, 2015, 06:26:02 AM
Presidential candidate and two-term president.

Why only two? Constitutional term limits are for those low in energy.

Yeah he will be First Consul for Life by that point.
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Barrister

Quote from: Malthus on December 08, 2015, 11:17:39 AM
Quote from: Legbiter on December 08, 2015, 06:26:02 AM
Presidential candidate and two-term president.

Why only two? Constitutional term limits are for those low in energy.

Trump would be 70 if/when he's elected - older than Reagan when he was elected.
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Malthus

Quote from: Barrister on December 08, 2015, 11:44:22 AM
Quote from: Malthus on December 08, 2015, 11:17:39 AM
Quote from: Legbiter on December 08, 2015, 06:26:02 AM
Presidential candidate and two-term president.

Why only two? Constitutional term limits are for those low in energy.

Trump would be 70 if/when he's elected - older than Reagan when he was elected.

Death, like term limits, is for the low in energy.

Prepare for the eternal rule of the undead Trump!

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

The Brain

He'll whither on the whine.
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