Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S.

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Quote from: Ed Anger on December 08, 2015, 11:02:31 AM
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:rolleyes:  It's not like that was something a person would forget, FFS.
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Quote from: The Brain on December 08, 2015, 12:26:36 PM
I always ticked the "Did you work for Nazi Germany 1933-45?" box on the flights to the US. You know, as a jest.

Crossed my mind several times too, but I never dared to fuck with the DHS  :lol:

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Quote from: celedhring on December 08, 2015, 12:34:50 PM
Quote from: The Brain on December 08, 2015, 12:26:36 PM
I always ticked the "Did you work for Nazi Germany 1933-45?" box on the flights to the US. You know, as a jest.

Crossed my mind several times too, but I never dared to fuck with the DHS  :lol:

Me neither. :(
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http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/white-nationalist-and-anti-muslim-fringe-embrace-trump-propo#.bcLOKlMgL

QuoteWhite Nationalist And Anti-Muslim Fringe Embrace Trump Proposal

Burning up the fever swamps.

A coalition of America's top white nationalists again praised an initiative from Republican front-runner Donald Trump, this time praising his plan to restrict Muslim immigration to the United States.

In what is becoming a fairly routine ritual in a campaign that has seen no shortage of racially charged rhetoric from the Republican front-runner, American's prominent white nationalists again found comfort in a proposal from The Donald.

"I would not let in any Muslim immigrants at all, from Syria or from anywhere else," said Jared Taylor, who runs the site American Renaissance (which says that "one of the most destructive myths of modern times is that people of all races have the same average intelligence"), in an email to BuzzFeed News in mid-November. "They only cause trouble. Even if they don't throw bombs, they want special food, won't work with pork, want special swimming pool hours for women only, etc. Who needs them?"

Taylor, unprompted, emailed BuzzFeed News on Monday after Trump's comments, forwarding the previous comments with addendum "you saw it here first."

Former Klu Klux Klan official and politician David Duke offered his support for Trump's proposal on his radio program on Tuesday, saying the media is attacking Trump because his comments call into question a U.S. foreign policy pushed by Zionism.

"The Jewish knives are coming out on Donald Trump," Duke said on his radio show of Trump's comments.

"How come it's against America values to want to preserve the heritage of the country?" Duke asked, paraphrasing Trump. "We're overwhelmingly a Christian country and overwhelmingly a European country."

Trump's broad call for a ban on Muslim immigration also found praise across the white nationalist web. On the Daily Stormer, the white nationalist website that has endorsed Trump, editor Andrew Anglin wrote in a post "Glorious Leader Calls for Complete Ban on All Moslems" that Trump was the only candidate speaking sense.

"Why were these monkeys ever allowed in in the first place? What an insane, stupid concept," he wrote with a link to Trump's comment. "Finally: Someone speaks sense."

Brad Griffin, who runs the white nationalist blog Occidental Dissent under the pseudonym "Hunter Wallace," similarly praised Trump.

"In addition to the Trump database, this should help Trump peel off a lot of the Carson/Cruz vote while sending the Left into a new fit of PC rage that will generate free publicity through Iowa," wrote Griffin.

"That's great," Griffin said of Trump's policy. "We need to stop the damage the U.S. government is already doing to places like Minneapolis–St. Paul and Middle Tennessee with the refugee resettlement program. It was revealed today that ISIS is targeting the refugee program to funnel terrorists into the U.S."

On the white nationalist site VDare.com, Trump's comments drew rave reviews across the board. In one post from editor James Kirkpatrick seeking donations to the site, Trump's call was cited as proof The Donald was embracing the white nationalist cause.

"Even as this is written, Donald Trump has come out for a moratorium on Muslim immigration, just days after our Editor-in-Chief Peter Brimelow advocated precisely the same thing," wrote Kirkpatrick. "They may not admit it, but more people than ever are reading VDARE.com. And finally, people are beginning to act."

In another post, writer Allan Wall called the idea "fantastic."

"I am a conservative Evangelical Christian and I think Trump's idea is fantastic. They don't have Muslim terrorism in Japan, do they," he wrote.

Anti-Muslim activists — a distinct group from the white nationalist movement, which has historically directed its racism at blacks and Jews — also embraced Trump's proposal.

"No one has some natural right to enter the U.S.," anti-Islam activist Robert Spencer, director of the site Jihad Watch, wrote BuzzFeed News in an email, adding that Trump was suggesting a temporary measure and citing the role of "intelligence failures" in the attacks in San Bernardino, California, and Paris. "Must our commitment to 'multiculturalism' and 'diversity' override any concern for national security?"

The anti-Muslim provocateur Pamela Geller also praised the suggestion.

"Obama's negligence and jihad denial necessitates emergency measures. The San Bernardino jihad rampage is a direct result of Obama's jihad denial," she said.

Neither Spencer nor Geller, however, supports Trump as a candidate, because they believe he is not anti-Muslim enough. In particular, both broke with Trump after he denounced as "disgusting" a "Draw the Prophet" event hosted by a group the two founded, which was attacked by two gunmen in May.

Geller told BuzzFeed News last month that she preferred Ted Cruz, arguing that "Trump doesn't understand the importance of freedom of speech."

Spencer, meanwhile, wrote yesterday, "I will never support Trump for President, even were he to knock on my door, get on one knee, and ask for my vote. I could never support a candidate who advocates kowtowing to violent intimidation and submitting to the Islamic supremacist war against the freedom of speech, as he did after the jihad attack on our event in Garland, Texas."
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Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 08, 2015, 07:59:25 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on December 08, 2015, 07:55:57 PM
You mean the carrier?

Yup.

He has already done one on the USS Iowa, though.  Even went for the Neil vote by suggesting bringing back the battleships.  :P

jimmy olsen

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Donald Trump has done it again.

Less than 24 hours after President Barack Obama aimed to set the tone for the country on a response to the threat of terrorism with an Oval Office address, Trump only needed a press release to cause an uproar with his call for an outright ban on Muslims entering the United States.

The billionaire businessman stood defiantly by his statement on Tuesday morning, when he warned that failing to follow his plans would lead to another September 11-style terror attack on U.S. soil.

"You're going to have many more World Trade Centers if you don't solve it -- many, many more and probably beyond the World Trade Center," Trump told CNN's Chris Cuomo in a contentious interview on "New Day."

The episode is a microcosm of how the 2016 campaign has played out. Trump has consistently forced candidates, state party chairs, senators and conservative pundits to respond to his actions and quotes, however outlandish and improbable. And in turn, they have all struggled with the question of how to deal with the bombastic real estate tycoon who has dominated state and national polls since the summer.

Trump's enduring ability to frame the terms of the debate for the GOP continues to have party leaders fretting he will drive voters to Hillary Clinton, help down-ballot Democrats and cause long-term damage to the Republican brand.

Yet, unlike with past provocative statements, Trump appears to have sparked a level of backlash from GOP party leaders and his opponents that could be a tipping point for the willingness of fellow Republicans to criticize him directly and openly. Jeb Bush called Trump "unhinged." Ted Cruz said it wasn't his policy. And Dick Cheney, who previously said he would back the Republican nominee even it was Trump, said that Monday's proposal "goes against everything we stand for and believe in."

At a press conference on Tuesday, House Speaker Paul Ryan also slammed Trump.

"This is not conservatism," he said. "What was proposed yesterday is not what this party stands for."

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/08/politics/donald-trump-muslim-republicans-2016/

I'm glad that the politicians have finally decided he's gone too far, but I'm very skeptical the base of the party will agree with them.
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 08, 2015, 06:18:34 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 08, 2015, 06:13:03 AM
Grumbler is old enough to remember George Wallace.

As grumbler is old jokes go, this one's pretty weak.

Wasn't a joke. Isn't he old enough to remember that?  :unsure:
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sbr

Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 08, 2015, 10:59:56 PM
I'm glad that the politicians have finally decided he's gone too far, but I'm very skeptical the base of the party will agree with them.

All 27% of them?