Facebook Follies of Friends and Families

[Syt]

California is DOOMED!

[Valmy]

I have to question their ability to gather accurate citizenship records for existing gang members.

But #9 is why we need to reform. The economic benefits of immigrants make it impractical to regulate to the extent we want to and we can see the results on this list. George W Bush came into the White House ready to solve this problem but his own party refused to budge. Anytime they want to come up with a practical solution would be great.

[PDH]

Of course, in California the illegals/undocumented workers pay taxes.  They are just never going to see any of that money.

[Valmy]

I like how the American taxpayer is FOOTING THE BILL but somehow we might have gotten trillions of dollars of economic activity out of it. Is our investment paying off?

[celedhring]

I saw some Trumptard complaining that 10% of jobs in CA are taken by illegals (might be false, not that this lot cares much for the truth). I see that CA has unemployment a hair over 5%, and I doubt that many in this 5% will care for the kind of jobs that illegals can have (gardeners, movers, farm pickers...)

So it looks like CA needs those illegals, and it would be better if we found ways so these guys can stop being illegals.

[Valmy]

I saw some Trumptard complaining that 10% of jobs in CA are taken by illegals (might be false, not that this lot cares much for the truth). I see that CA has unemployment a hair below 5%, and I doubt that many in this 5% will care for the kind of jobs that illegals can have (gardeners, movers, farm pickers...)

So it looks like CA needs those illegals, and it would be better if we found ways so these guys can stop being illegals.

We're the same. Which is why both Perry and Bush tried to do things for the immigrants. But in the current atmosphere of the Republican Party that is no longer possible. Now we must sacrifice our economy and well being at the altar of...whatever principle is at stake.

If by some magic the immigration laws were all 100% platonically enforced the economy would melt down. Hence why it never will be.

[Tamas]

Of course, in California the illegals/undocumented workers pay taxes.  They are just never going to see any of that money.

[garbon]

Of course, in California the illegals/undocumented workers pay taxes.  They are just never going to see any of that money.

They do.

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/09/undocumented-immigrants-and-taxes/499604/

[Tamas]

You have some messed up shit going on.

[Valmy]

You have some messed up shit going on.

Government policies that completely ignore economic realities tend to be pretty messed up shit.

[Tamas]

You have some messed up shit going on.

Government policies that completely ignore economic realities tend to be pretty messed up shit.

What I mean is that somebody can be both an illegal alien, AND be legally able to pay taxes. Unless we are talking about people who have their asylum request pending, I don't see how in a civilised country you can have such chaos.

[Grey Fox]

Its their use of the word illegal & we think it's people hiding in false basements from the Nazis but the reality is far from that.

You have some messed up shit going on.

Government policies that completely ignore economic realities tend to be pretty messed up shit.

What I mean is that somebody can be both an illegal alien, AND be legally able to pay taxes. Unless we are talking about people who have their asylum request pending, I don't see how in a civilised country you can have such chaos.

You have some messed up shit going on.

This is the country where the IRS wants you to pay taxes on your illegal drug money income. Doesn't care that it's illegal.

[Valmy]

What I mean is that somebody can be both an illegal alien, AND be legally able to pay taxes. Unless we are talking about people who have their asylum request pending, I don't see how in a civilised country you can have such chaos.

Our country was designed to be chaotic. It is what freedom is all about.

There is always that quote:

Americans are the only race which passed directly from barbarism to decadence without knowing civilization.

No idea who said it though.

[Oexmelin]

Chaos was quite far from the Founding Father's ideal.

[garbon]

You have some messed up shit going on.

Government policies that completely ignore economic realities tend to be pretty messed up shit.

What I mean is that somebody can be both an illegal alien, AND be legally able to pay taxes. Unless we are talking about people who have their asylum request pending, I don't see how in a civilised country you can have such chaos.

Well if you are using a fake social security card, technically you aren't 'legally' paying taxes.