The Paris Attack Debate Thread

[Richard Hakluyt]

I don't understand the ISIS thinking of wanting to keep pushing the West until we are prodded into taking a firm stance against them. It doesn't appear to be a war they are equipped to win.

They are a minority within the muslim world, but if the West goes OTT then maybe the ISIS view can gain mass acceptance within that world.

[garbon]

I don't understand the ISIS thinking of wanting to keep pushing the West until we are prodded into taking a firm stance against them. It doesn't appear to be a war they are equipped to win.

They are a minority within the muslim world, but if the West goes OTT then maybe the ISIS view can gain mass acceptance within that world.

If that was the goal, wouldn't it make more sense to I don't know not be so antagonistic to the local Muslim populations where they are operating? Just hoping everyone will forget their brutality in the face of destruction caused by the West?

[LaCroix]

I don't understand the ISIS thinking of wanting to keep pushing the West until we are prodded into taking a firm stance against them. It doesn't appear to be a war they are equipped to win.

i think it's just angry backlash without much thought. "you mess with us and we'll strike back, no matter who it is."

[Admiral Yi]

i think it's just angry backlash without much thought. "you mess with us and we'll strike back, no matter who it is."

I think it is an effort to comply with Allah's will, to make war on those not already in the House of Submission.

[jimmy olsen]

I don't understand the ISIS thinking of wanting to keep pushing the West until we are prodded into taking a firm stance against them. It doesn't appear to be a war they are equipped to win.

They are a minority within the muslim world, but if the West goes OTT then maybe the ISIS view can gain mass acceptance within that world.

If that was the goal, wouldn't it make more sense to I don't know not be so antagonistic to the local Muslim populations where they are operating? Just hoping everyone will forget their brutality in the face of destruction caused by the West?

Their prophesies literally say that they will be on the brink of defeat against the West when Allah will swoop down and save them. I'm willing to go along with the first part and take my chances on the second.

[grumbler]

Oh, and 16% of French citizens support ISIS.

http://www.newsweek.com/16-french-citizens-support-isis-poll-finds-266795

The Big Lie is still alive and well, it seems.

[Valmy]

Who is incredibly angry?

Yeah I did not think garbon and I were even slightly rude to each other. It was a nice discussion.

[Valmy]

Oh, and 16% of French citizens support ISIS.

http://www.newsweek.com/16-french-citizens-support-isis-poll-finds-266795

The Big Lie is still alive and well, it seems.

LOL that is hilarious.

[Valmy]

Their prophesies literally say that they will be on the brink of defeat against the West when Allah will swoop down and save them. I'm willing to go along with the first part and take my chances on the second.

Actually Jesus is going to. Man will that be a shocker.

[Tonitrus]

I don't understand the ISIS thinking of wanting to keep pushing the West until we are prodded into taking a firm stance against them. It doesn't appear to be a war they are equipped to win.

Well, their land grab in Syria/Iraq was a very nice coup on their part...but I have a feeling they'll be just as happy as a typical underground terrorist whack-a-mole group operating at large in the ME and Europe.

[Valmy]

I don't understand the ISIS thinking of wanting to keep pushing the West until we are prodded into taking a firm stance against them. It doesn't appear to be a war they are equipped to win.

Well, their land grab in Syria/Iraq was a very nice coup on their part...but I have a feeling they'll be just as happy as a typical underground terrorist whack-a-mole group operating at large in the ME and Europe.

No they could never operate that way. Their existence depends on territory to control.

[Tonitrus]

I don't understand the ISIS thinking of wanting to keep pushing the West until we are prodded into taking a firm stance against them. It doesn't appear to be a war they are equipped to win.

Well, their land grab in Syria/Iraq was a very nice coup on their part...but I have a feeling they'll be just as happy as a typical underground terrorist whack-a-mole group operating at large in the ME and Europe.

No they could never operate that way. Their existence depends on territory to control.

I think you're wrong...but I'm not going to be all Languish about it.   

[Valmy]

I think you're wrong...but I'm not going to be all Languish about it.   

Well here is hoping we have a chance to test your theory.

[grumbler]

I don't understand the ISIS thinking of wanting to keep pushing the West until we are prodded into taking a firm stance against them. It doesn't appear to be a war they are equipped to win.

Well, their land grab in Syria/Iraq was a very nice coup on their part...but I have a feeling they'll be just as happy as a typical underground terrorist whack-a-mole group operating at large in the ME and Europe.

No they could never operate that way. Their existence depends on territory to control.

You are correct.  They can't out al-Qaeda al-Qaeda, they have to be the Islamic State or they are nothing.  That's both the key to their success, and their great weakness.

[crazy canuck]

I don't understand the ISIS thinking of wanting to keep pushing the West until we are prodded into taking a firm stance against them. It doesn't appear to be a war they are equipped to win.

They are a minority within the muslim world, but if the West goes OTT then maybe the ISIS view can gain mass acceptance within that world.

If that was the goal, wouldn't it make more sense to I don't know not be so antagonistic to the local Muslim populations where they are operating? Just hoping everyone will forget their brutality in the face of destruction caused by the West?

Their prophesies literally say that they will be on the brink of defeat against the West when Allah will swoop down and save them. I'm willing to go along with the first part and take my chances on the second.

If you replace Allah with God then it fits with a lot of fundamentalist North American apocalyptic nonsense too