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Started by Barrister, November 13, 2015, 04:32:42 PM

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Maladict

Quote from: Liep on November 14, 2015, 04:04:48 PM
I think it's an American vs. European thing here, we're much less used to religion actively used and people offering prayers are not common here.

Yeah I know, it makes me slightly uncomfortable too.
But even apart from that it's not a hostile message at all.

Liep

If two people can get so upset about how to morn things look very bleak.
"Af alle latterlige Ting forekommer det mig at være det allerlatterligste at have travlt" - Kierkegaard

"JamenajmenømahrmDÆ!DÆ! Æhvnårvaæhvadlelæh! Hvor er det crazy, det her, mand!" - Uffe Elbæk

Liep

Quote from: Maladict on November 14, 2015, 04:09:42 PM
Quote from: Liep on November 14, 2015, 04:04:48 PM
I think it's an American vs. European thing here, we're much less used to religion actively used and people offering prayers are not common here.

Yeah I know, it makes me slightly uncomfortable too.
But even apart from that it's not a hostile message at all.

Me too, and yes, I don't understand Garbon's response to it and certainly not Martinus' response to the response (but that's not uncommon).
"Af alle latterlige Ting forekommer det mig at være det allerlatterligste at have travlt" - Kierkegaard

"JamenajmenømahrmDÆ!DÆ! Æhvnårvaæhvadlelæh! Hvor er det crazy, det her, mand!" - Uffe Elbæk

Martinus

Quote from: Legbiter on November 14, 2015, 04:06:52 PM
The empty moral preening on social media after every Islamoid atrocity deeply disgusts me.

Yeah, I unfollowed probably two dozens leftist politicians and pundits.

Read a very interesting and balanced article from a security specialist today - too bad it is in Polish or I would repost.

Duque de Bragança

#214
I count it as support, not my cup of tea, but I don't think it's a good idea to make such a fuss about it, on both sides.

PS: I prefer Fight for Paris seen elsewhere on the web.

Martinus

Quote from: Liep on November 14, 2015, 04:12:00 PM
Quote from: Maladict on November 14, 2015, 04:09:42 PM
Quote from: Liep on November 14, 2015, 04:04:48 PM
I think it's an American vs. European thing here, we're much less used to religion actively used and people offering prayers are not common here.

Yeah I know, it makes me slightly uncomfortable too.
But even apart from that it's not a hostile message at all.

Me too, and yes, I don't understand Garbon's response to it and certainly not Martinus' (but that's not uncommon).

My response comes mainly as a reaction to Garbon's (and some other sanctimonious American fools on Facebook).

viper37

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on November 14, 2015, 11:39:03 AM
#Greece PublicOrderMin Toskas confirms Paris attacker w Syrian passport was registered as refugee on Leros island in Oct. /via @AntennaNews

https://twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

If confirmed, danke Gutmenschen.
Found on lefigaro.fr

QuoteSyrian passport found on Paris attacker's body belonged to refugee who passed through Greece

The holder of a Syrian passport found near the body of one of the gunmen who died in Friday night's attacks in Paris passed though Greece in October, a Greek minister told Reuters.

"The holder of the passport passed through the island of Leros on October 3, 2015, where he was identified according to EU rules," said Nikos Toscas, Greece's deputy minister in charge of policing.

A Greek police source told Reuters that European countries had been asked to check the passport holder to see if they had been registered.

While this heavily implies that one of the gunman came into Europe along with refugees, Syrian passports are known to be valuable currency amongst those trying to enter Europe, and it is not confirmed yet whether the holder of the passport is indeed the perpetrator.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/14/paris-terror-attacks-attackers-dead-mass-killing-live-updates

The Guardian in damage control mode in the end while Berlin said to not link the "migrant" and terrorist issues.
a reminder to be careful about who we let in.  Proper screening must still take place.
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garbon

Quote from: Martinus on November 14, 2015, 04:07:47 PM
Quote from: garbon on November 14, 2015, 03:54:54 PM
I think it is a dreadful response and the kind that I would expect from that puerile publication.

Go fuck yourself. We don't need your shitty religion. Keep it to yourself.

Yes, that's exactly how it reads.

Btw, unlike you, I've never actually been religious.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
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garbon

Quote from: Liep on November 14, 2015, 04:12:00 PM
Quote from: Maladict on November 14, 2015, 04:09:42 PM
Quote from: Liep on November 14, 2015, 04:04:48 PM
I think it's an American vs. European thing here, we're much less used to religion actively used and people offering prayers are not common here.

Yeah I know, it makes me slightly uncomfortable too.
But even apart from that it's not a hostile message at all.

Me too, and yes, I don't understand Garbon's response to it and certainly not Martinus' response to the response (but that's not uncommon).

It's spite thrown back at people offering their condolences. Or are condolences only to be offered in the 'right' way? It is no different from people saying they are keeping good thoughts - unless one is making a ridiculous link between the religion of the attackers and the religion of those making prayers.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Valmy

Quote from: Maladict on November 14, 2015, 04:00:35 PM
This is what he said:
Quote
Friends from the whole world,
Thank you for #PrayForParis,
But we don't need more
Religion! Our faith goes
To Music! Kisses! Life!
Champagne and joy!
#ParisIsAboutLife

Doesn't look that dreadful to me  :huh:

Yeah that is pretty spiteful garbon. I totally understand your rage :mellow:
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Syt

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Liep

Quote from: garbon on November 14, 2015, 04:35:34 PM
It's spite thrown back at people offering their condolences. Or are condolences only to be offered in the 'right' way? It is no different from people saying they are keeping good thoughts - unless one is making a ridiculous link between the religion of the attackers and the religion of those making prayers.

I don't see the spite. He's thanking people for their thoughts but ask they not use God as a mediator. If I had just been attacked by people praising God while doing so I think I would ask the same.
"Af alle latterlige Ting forekommer det mig at være det allerlatterligste at have travlt" - Kierkegaard

"JamenajmenømahrmDÆ!DÆ! Æhvnårvaæhvadlelæh! Hvor er det crazy, det her, mand!" - Uffe Elbæk

Jaron

They could have done without the religion line. It is a slap to the face to compassionate Americans offering their sympathies. Just accept the gesture.
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Duque de Bragança

Quote from: Valmy on November 14, 2015, 04:37:03 PM
Quote from: Maladict on November 14, 2015, 04:00:35 PM
This is what he said:
Quote
Friends from the whole world,
Thank you for #PrayForParis,
But we don't need more
Religion! Our faith goes
To Music! Kisses! Life!
Champagne and joy!
#ParisIsAboutLife

Doesn't look that dreadful to me  :huh:

Yeah that is pretty spiteful garbon. I totally understand your rage :mellow:

:secret: It mentioned champagne. Garbonites do not appreciate it.

Jaron

Trump is an idiot.

A person carrying a gun can perhaps deter or stop a crime like a mugging, but it is silly to think they were going to stop a bunch of terrorists with assault rifles. What were they going to do? Go to a concert with body armor and a AK47 strapped across their back?

On top of that, it was at a concert. Even in the US, there are plenty of venues that use metal detectors and won't let people in if they're carrying guns. Like Disneyland.
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