Shootings and explosions in Paris

[jimmy olsen]

Hollande: "We are going to lead a war which will be pitiless. When terrorists are capable of committing such atrocities, they must be certain that they are facing a determined France, a united France, a France that is together, and does not let itself be moved"

Ok, now I have a frog boner.

Small, green and warty?

[Martinus]

Reports of ISIS claiming responsibility and a Syrian passport being found on one attacker's body.

[Duque de Bragança]

More about found passports: one Egyptian as well.
A "French" extremist, a radical known to the police from suburban and/or countryside Essonne (both in Île-de-France/Paris Region) was identified through his fingerprints according to Liberation newspaper.

[celedhring]

Might be just a coincidence, but a burnt car with a French plate has been found in northern Catalonia, just off the route that takes you to the French border. It contained a bunch of cell phones and fake European car plates.

Spanish police is investigating it.

[viper37]

ISIS is attacking us mostly? That would surely be welcome news to all the locals they have slaughtered.

Not many ISIS slaughter in Jordan, Saudi Arabia or Bharein.
What happens in Syria and Irak does not concern that much the gulf countries, otherwise, Saudi Arabia would have troops in Syria, not in Yemen.
And if you look at the refugee situation, the gulf countries have close to 0 refugees in their borders.

[Maladict]

Might be just a coincidence, but a burnt car with a French plate has been found in northern Catalonia, just off the route that takes you to the French border. It contained a bunch of cell phones and fake European car plates.

Spanish police is investigating it.

Several witnesses in Paris also saw gunmen use a car with Belgian plates.

[viper37]

Is France capable of declaring and prosecuting a war on ISIS? Because I may be wrong but based on recent pronouncements by Hollande, this is what may happen, imo.

Btw, ISIS definitely is a "state" in the international law sense (even though it is not recognised by the international community) as it meets all the criteria (territory, effective control, own laws it enforces etc.) so if the attack was actually carried out by ISIS (and not some copycats/fanbois), then this should amount to a foreign attack on a NATO country.

It's the same as the US declaring war on terror.  Maybe France will invade Egypt...

[Martinus]

Is France capable of declaring and prosecuting a war on ISIS? Because I may be wrong but based on recent pronouncements by Hollande, this is what may happen, imo.

Btw, ISIS definitely is a "state" in the international law sense (even though it is not recognised by the international community) as it meets all the criteria (territory, effective control, own laws it enforces etc.) so if the attack was actually carried out by ISIS (and not some copycats/fanbois), then this should amount to a foreign attack on a NATO country.

It's the same as the US declaring war on terror.  Maybe France will invade Egypt...

Not at all the same, for the reason I mentioned.

[Solmyr]

Is France capable of declaring and prosecuting a war on ISIS? Because I may be wrong but based on recent pronouncements by Hollande, this is what may happen, imo.

Btw, ISIS definitely is a "state" in the international law sense (even though it is not recognised by the international community) as it meets all the criteria (territory, effective control, own laws it enforces etc.) so if the attack was actually carried out by ISIS (and not some copycats/fanbois), then this should amount to a foreign attack on a NATO country.

It's the same as the US declaring war on terror.  Maybe France will invade Egypt...

From the heights of those pyramids, forty-two centuries will look down on them?

[Duque de Bragança]

#Greece PublicOrderMin Toskas confirms Paris attacker w Syrian passport was registered as refugee on Leros island in Oct. /via @AntennaNews

https://twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

If confirmed, danke Gutmenschen.
Found on lefigaro.fr

Syrian passport found on Paris attacker's body belonged to refugee who passed through Greece

The holder of a Syrian passport found near the body of one of the gunmen who died in Friday night's attacks in Paris passed though Greece in October, a Greek minister told Reuters.

"The holder of the passport passed through the island of Leros on October 3, 2015, where he was identified according to EU rules," said Nikos Toscas, Greece's deputy minister in charge of policing.

A Greek police source told Reuters that European countries had been asked to check the passport holder to see if they had been registered.

While this heavily implies that one of the gunman came into Europe along with refugees, Syrian passports are known to be valuable currency amongst those trying to enter Europe, and it is not confirmed yet whether the holder of the passport is indeed the perpetrator.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/14/paris-terror-attacks-attackers-dead-mass-killing-live-updates

The Guardian in damage control mode in the end while Berlin said to not link the "migrant" and terrorist issues.

[Martinus]

#Greece PublicOrderMin Toskas confirms Paris attacker w Syrian passport was registered as refugee on Leros island in Oct. /via @AntennaNews

https://twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

If confirmed, danke Gutmenschen.
Found on lefigaro.fr

Syrian passport found on Paris attacker's body belonged to refugee who passed through Greece

The holder of a Syrian passport found near the body of one of the gunmen who died in Friday night's attacks in Paris passed though Greece in October, a Greek minister told Reuters.

"The holder of the passport passed through the island of Leros on October 3, 2015, where he was identified according to EU rules," said Nikos Toscas, Greece's deputy minister in charge of policing.

A Greek police source told Reuters that European countries had been asked to check the passport holder to see if they had been registered.

While this heavily implies that one of the gunman came into Europe along with refugees, Syrian passports are known to be valuable currency amongst those trying to enter Europe, and it is not confirmed yet whether the holder of the passport is indeed the perpetrator.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/14/paris-terror-attacks-attackers-dead-mass-killing-live-updates

The Guardian in damage control mode in the end while Berlin said to not link the "migrant" and terrorist issues.

Ok, so what exactly it means, according to you? Three of the other shooters were from Brussels' suburbs, one from Paris...

You seem to be building a strawman that the pro-refugee side was somehow guaranteeing that noone like that can slip through the cracks. Is this it?

[Queequeg]

Appears to be a real ceasefire deal in Syria being worked out. Huge. Hugehugehuge.

[Valmy]

Yeah that was what I was afraid of. If Syrians were involved the refugees are in serious trouble.

[Valmy]

Appears to be a real ceasefire deal in Syria being worked out. Huge. Hugehugehuge.

What are you babbling about now?

[Liep]

Appears to be a real ceasefire deal in Syria being worked out. Huge. Hugehugehuge.

Between who?