sub-Roman Britain, the Romano-British, and the Welsh

[Valmy]

The Nazis ruined the Germanic faiths.
I wonder where they would be if they didn't have the far right associations. In the Scandinavian version and the Roman records of the Germans, it is one of the better recorded old pagan faiths afterall.

Roman records on the matter shouldn't be taken as gospel.

I don't think anybody is taking them that way Tim. But there are records and that is something.

[Valmy]

Caliga, check out the British History Podcast.  They go in to a ludicrous amount of detail about Sub-Roman Britain.  It's fantastic. 

The guy has so many axes to grind his axes' axes need grinding. But he sure does get down to nitty gritty.

Elaborate

He hates the Romans to a hilarious degree. He also strongly disagrees with the traditional views on Anglo-Saxon history. Now generally those are fine biases to have but he is really intense about them.

[jimmy olsen]

Caliga, check out the British History Podcast.  They go in to a ludicrous amount of detail about Sub-Roman Britain.  It's fantastic. 

The guy has so many axes to grind his axes' axes need grinding. But he sure does get down to nitty gritty.

Elaborate

He hates the Romans to a hilarious degree. He also strongly disagrees with the traditional views on Anglo-Saxon history. Now generally those are fine biases to have but he is really intense about them.

Why?

All that's going through my head right now is the "what did the Romans ever do for us" scene from a life of Bryan.

[Valmy]

Why?

Sexist imperialists whose culture was a pale reflection of Greece that everybody was glad to see go. Basically.

Which, again, is fine plenty of people think that. I just got tired of hearing it over and over again after awhile 

[jimmy olsen]

Why?

Sexist imperialists whose culture was a pale reflection of Greece that everybody was glad to see go. Basically.

Which, again, is fine plenty of people think that. I just got tired of hearing it over and over again after awhile 

Shocked and Appalled!

[Eddie Teach]

The Greeks were more sexist than the Romans.

[Razgovory]

The Nazis ruined the Germanic faiths.
I wonder where they would be if they didn't have the far right associations. In the Scandinavian version and the Roman records of the Germans, it is one of the better recorded old pagan faiths afterall.

I think they were ruined way before the Nazis.




"I was a pagan German, and all I got was a rope around the neck". 

[jimmy olsen]

The Greeks were more sexist than the Romans.

The Athenians by orders of magnitude.

[Razgovory]

Yeah, Athens was not unlike modern Saudi Arabia.  Women wore veils, were not allowed out without a guardians, lived in separate compartments of the houses from the men.  It is strange how often we forget.

[Valmy]

Yeah, Athens was not unlike modern Saudi Arabia.  Women wore veils, were not allowed out without a guardians, lived in separate compartments of the houses from the men.  It is strange how often we forget.

Well being on an equal level with a civilization 2500 years later is not so bad. But the comparison to show how sexist the Romans were was being made against the Celts.

"I was a pagan German, and all I got was a rope around the neck".

Ancient cultures have things that go against modern cultural sensibilities? You don't say Raz.

[Razgovory]

Yeah, Athens was not unlike modern Saudi Arabia.  Women wore veils, were not allowed out without a guardians, lived in separate compartments of the houses from the men.  It is strange how often we forget.

Well being on an equal level with a civilization 2500 years later is not so bad. But the comparison to show how sexist the Romans were was being made against the Celts.

"I was a pagan German, and all I got was a rope around the neck".

Ancient cultures have things that go against modern cultural sensibilities? You don't say Raz.

Not all ancient cultures sacrificed human beings.  I think "strangling people and tossing them in the bog" goes a bit beyond "violating our culture sensibilities".  There is also some evidence that the Muslims got their attitudes about women from the ancient Greeks, the wellspring of Western culture. Funny that.  It does make one think though, who are the true inheritor of the culture that outlawed meteorology and invented the blood libel.  The West or the Middle East?

[garbon]

No it doesn't make one think at all. Maybe just roll one's eyes.

[Razgovory]

No it doesn't make one think at all.

[The Brain]

The Athenians wanted to live on Germanic welfare. Good riddance.

[crazy canuck]

Not all ancient cultures sacrificed human beings.  I think "strangling people and tossing them in the bog" goes a bit beyond "violating our culture sensibilities". 

If you are going to play at comparing ancient cultures with modern sensibilities you probably want to add in a number of passages from the Old Testament.  Starting with the guy who was willing to sacrifice his own son.     Now it is true that this passage may be a message to the ancients that human sacrifice is no longer acceptable.  But you must admit that the willingness to sacrifice a son is at least evidence that the practice needed to be stopped.