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Started by jimmy olsen, August 04, 2015, 10:28:35 PM

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jimmy olsen

August 04, 2015, 10:28:35 PM
Perry should hang his head in shame that he couldn't break into a field this big.

So, what are your predicitions? Will Trump go to far and flame out, of will his beligerance further whip up the base?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/05/us-usa-election-republicans-idUSKCN0Q92D520150805''

QuoteKasich, Christie make the cut for prime-time Republican debate
WASHINGTON | BY JOHN WHITESIDES

Republican Governors Chris Christie and John Kasich on Tuesday grabbed the last spots on stage next to front-runner Donald Trump and seven others in the first prime-time presidential debate, winning a potentially valuable head start in exposure.

Former Texas Governor Rick Perry, former U.S. Senator Rick Santorum and five others in the crowded 2016 Republican field were left out of Thursday's televised 9 p.m. EDT debate by host Fox News, which invited the top 10 candidates in an average of five recent opinion polls.

The leftover candidates will appear in a separate forum outside of the spotlight at 5 p.m. EDT on Thursday, leaving them fighting to win attention and prove to voters and donors they have a legitimate shot at the nomination.

At center stage in prime time will be Trump, the real estate mogul who has shot to the top of Republican polls, flanked by former Florida Governor Jeb Bush and Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, the top three finishers in the poll average.

Also making the cut were former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, U.S. Senators Marco Rubio of Florida, Ted Cruz of Texas and Rand Paul of Kentucky, and Governors Christie of New Jersey and Kasich of Ohio.

Shuffled to the earlier forum were Perry, Santorum, U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, former business executive Carly Fiorina, former New York Governor George Pataki and former Virginia Governor Jim Gilmore.

Those candidates deemed not ready for prime time at the Cleveland debate tried to stay positive.

"I look forward to answering questions on Thursday in Cleveland," Fiorina said in a statement. Perry said on Twitter he looked forward to the forum "for what will be a serious exchange of ideas and positive solutions to get America back on track."

Fox's decision to limit the participants created weeks of anxiety for those on the bubble. It also was criticized by some Republicans as unfair given the number of candidates bunched in the low single digits, well within the margin of error of most polls.

Fox said Kasich, the last debate qualifier, averaged 3.2 percent in the polling. Perry, the first one out, averaged 1.8 percent.

Fox said it used polls conducted by Bloomberg, CBS News, Fox News, Monmouth University and Quinnipiac University, the five most recent national polls using standard methodology.

(Additional reporting by Emily Stephenson; Editing by Sandra Maler, Eric Beech and Leslie Adler)

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MadBurgerMaker

#1
August 04, 2015, 10:32:31 PM
Perry dumbassed his way out of anything a long time ago. 

Eddie Teach

#2
August 04, 2015, 10:36:28 PM
Trump will agree to withdraw if the other 9 candidates agree to go on his show to determine the winner.
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jimmy olsen

#3
August 04, 2015, 10:47:27 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 04, 2015, 10:36:28 PM
Trump will agree to withdraw if the other 9 candidates agree to go on his show to determine the winner.
That's brilliant!  :lol:
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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The Brain

#4
August 05, 2015, 09:51:02 AM
Not a huge Scott Walker fan. His Seventh Seal is meh to me.
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alfred russel

#5
August 05, 2015, 10:24:02 AM
Generally not a devotee of the megathread, but do we really need a thread for every primary debate? There already is a thread for the presidential election.
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Admiral Yi

#6
August 05, 2015, 11:43:44 AM
Each response by each candidate deserves its own thread.

Zanza

#7
August 05, 2015, 12:33:14 PM
Which of the other ten do you think is a worse candidate than Perry, Tim?

About the only thing I know about Perry is that he couldn't even name the three federal agencies he wanted to abolish four years ago...

DGuller

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August 05, 2015, 12:39:49 PM
Quote from: Zanza on August 05, 2015, 12:33:14 PM
Which of the other ten do you think is a worse candidate than Perry, Tim?

About the only thing I know about Perry is that he couldn't even name the three federal agencies he wanted to abolish four years ago...
Oops.

crazy canuck

#9
August 05, 2015, 12:40:27 PM
Shouldn't there be a separate Perry thread?

Razgovory

#10
August 05, 2015, 12:47:06 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 05, 2015, 12:40:27 PM
Shouldn't there be a separate Perry thread?

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alfred russel

#11
August 05, 2015, 01:38:31 PM
Quote from: Zanza on August 05, 2015, 12:33:14 PM
Which of the other ten do you think is a worse candidate than Perry, Tim?

About the only thing I know about Perry is that he couldn't even name the three federal agencies he wanted to abolish four years ago...

Two out of three ain't bad.  :)
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

alfred russel

#12
August 05, 2015, 01:48:36 PM
Quote from: Zanza on August 05, 2015, 12:33:14 PM
Which of the other ten do you think is a worse candidate than Perry, Tim?

About the only thing I know about Perry is that he couldn't even name the three federal agencies he wanted to abolish four years ago...

To answer for Tim and be more serious:

Donald Trump
Mike Huckabee
Ben Carson
Ted Cruz

I'm not confusing Perry with the messiah or anything. But he was what passes as a successful governor of a major state (reelected & the state didn't collapse during his term).

Donald Trump is a joke. Mike Huckabee was governor of a state too, but is Mr. Theocracy (& an ordained Baptist minister) serving as a talk show host. Ben Carson is a doctor, but really famous for really hardcore right wing rhetoric. Ted Cruz is the same, except a senator.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

The Minsky Moment

#13
August 05, 2015, 01:53:51 PM
Quote from: Zanza on August 05, 2015, 12:33:14 PM
Which of the other ten do you think is a worse candidate than Perry, Tim?

About the only thing I know about Perry is that he couldn't even name the three federal agencies he wanted to abolish four years ago...

In his mind, they were already gone.
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--Joan Robinson

The Minsky Moment

#14
August 05, 2015, 01:55:58 PM
Ted Cruz is a lot smarter than Perry.  Much more dangerous for that reason but I wouldn't call him a worse candidate
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