Who would you vote if the 2016 election is Trump vs. Sanders

Started by jimmy olsen, August 03, 2015, 11:13:19 PM

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Who would you vote if the 2016 election is Trump vs. Sanders?

American - I'd vote for Trump
11 (13.8%)
American - I'd vote for Sanders
27 (33.8%)
American - I'd vote for a right wing third party candidate
2 (2.5%)
American - I'd vote for a left wing third party candidate
2 (2.5%)
Euro and Friends - I'd vote for Trump
8 (10%)
Euro and Friends - I'd vote for Sanders
25 (31.3%)
Euro and Friends - I'd vote for a right wing third party candidate
1 (1.3%)
Euro and Friends - I'd vote for a left wing third party candidate
4 (5%)

Total Members Voted: 79

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garbon

#60
August 27, 2015, 08:04:31 AM
Well he just said that he wouldn't be surprised.
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jimmy olsen

#61
August 27, 2015, 08:06:00 AM
IIRC polls show Sanders beating Trump by 7 points, not quite a landslide but pretty decisive.
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Eddie Teach

#62
August 27, 2015, 08:16:48 AM
And Republicans would only have themselves to blame.
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Drakken

#63
August 27, 2015, 08:30:14 AM
So the Donald is now the new American Gracchus? Hope he won't end the same. :hmm:

Eddie Teach

#64
August 27, 2015, 08:36:27 AM
Quote from: Drakken on August 27, 2015, 08:30:14 AM
So the Donald is now the new American Gracchus? Hope he won't end the same. :hmm:

He would consider the Gracchi commies, I'm sure.
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grumbler

#65
August 27, 2015, 09:39:04 AM
Quote from: Drakken on August 27, 2015, 08:30:14 AM
So the Donald is now the new American Gracchus? Hope he won't end the same. :hmm:
:huh:  He is the American Sulla.  Sanders isn't quite Gracci-left, but he's a hell of a lot closer than Trump.
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Martinus

#66
August 27, 2015, 12:23:01 PM
Didn' Gracchus die in his 30s?

Valmy

#67
August 27, 2015, 12:25:42 PM
Quote from: Martinus on August 27, 2015, 12:23:01 PM
Didn' Gracchus die in his 30s?

The Directory killed him at 36. Those monsters.
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Drakken

#68
August 27, 2015, 12:33:35 PM Last Edit: August 27, 2015, 12:43:22 PM by Drakken
Quote from: grumbler on August 27, 2015, 09:39:04 AM
Quote from: Drakken on August 27, 2015, 08:30:14 AM
So the Donald is now the new American Gracchus? Hope he won't end the same. :hmm:

:huh:  He is the American Sulla.  Sanders isn't quite Gracci-left, but he's a hell of a lot closer than Trump.

But Trump would be considered and is considered a traitor to his class in Republican circles. Sanders is not.  :hmm:

It isn't even sure the Gracchi brothers were commies, either. What we do know is that both were not above using the mob to further their own political ends, and the hell be done with the Senate. Promising land reform, when most veterans were coming back from war to see their lands bought in absentia and toiled by slave workers instead, isn't exactly promising Babouvist-like communism.

Valmy

#69
August 27, 2015, 12:47:26 PM
To be fair simply being in favor of reforming which togas the Tribunes wore at the popular assemblies would label you a dangerous radical who needs to be assassinated before he crowns himself king in those days.
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grumbler

#70
August 27, 2015, 05:11:32 PM
Quote from: Drakken on August 27, 2015, 12:33:35 PM
But Trump would be considered and is considered a traitor to his class in Republican circles. Sanders is not.  :hmm:

It isn't even sure the Gracchi brothers were commies, either. What we do know is that both were not above using the mob to further their own political ends, and the hell be done with the Senate. Promising land reform, when most veterans were coming back from war to see their lands bought in absentia and toiled by slave workers instead, isn't exactly promising Babouvist-like communism.

How could Trump be considered a traitor to his class?  He seems to perfectly embody his class.

The Gracchi wanted to turn all public land over to the poor.  That's not "commie" or "Babouvist-like communism," but neither is Bernie Sanders.
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grumbler

#71
August 27, 2015, 05:15:03 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 27, 2015, 12:47:26 PM
To be fair simply being in favor of reforming which togas the Tribunes wore at the popular assemblies would label you a dangerous radical who needs to be assassinated before he crowns himself king in those days.
So could opposing the reformation of tribunician assembly togas.
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Habbaku

#72
August 27, 2015, 05:27:40 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 27, 2015, 08:06:00 AM
IIRC polls show Sanders beating Trump by 7 points, not quite a landslide but pretty decisive.

What is the cutoff for a landslide these days?
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Eddie Teach

#73
August 27, 2015, 05:29:05 PM
I would say 10%.
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jimmy olsen

#74
August 27, 2015, 05:29:43 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on August 27, 2015, 05:27:40 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 27, 2015, 08:06:00 AM
IIRC polls show Sanders beating Trump by 7 points, not quite a landslide but pretty decisive.

What is the cutoff for a landslide these days?
Double digits
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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