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Valmy

Quote from: Grey Fox on December 01, 2015, 12:11:33 PM
Government regulation & government ownership are not the same things. One doesn't have to preclude the other.

Sure? I mean I would presume the government regulates its own assets.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Habbaku

Quote from: Grey Fox on December 01, 2015, 12:11:33 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 01, 2015, 12:08:50 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on December 01, 2015, 12:02:41 PM
They are not the same things.

Could you clarify what you mean?

Government regulation & government ownership are not the same things. One doesn't have to preclude the other.

Is anyone saying they are the same thing?  :unsure:
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

-J. R. R. Tolkien

Grey Fox

Quote from: Habbaku on December 01, 2015, 12:25:16 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on December 01, 2015, 12:11:33 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 01, 2015, 12:08:50 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on December 01, 2015, 12:02:41 PM
They are not the same things.

Could you clarify what you mean?

Government regulation & government ownership are not the same things. One doesn't have to preclude the other.

Is anyone saying they are the same thing?  :unsure:

That's how I read Der's comment.

& maybe Tyr because who knows what he was saying.
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Habbaku

I am fairly confident that Tyr's statements can be summed up as follows: "Everything I don't like is capitalism, even socialism."
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

-J. R. R. Tolkien


Syt

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Liep

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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Grey Fox on December 01, 2015, 12:11:33 PM
Government regulation & government ownership are not the same things. One doesn't have to preclude the other.

What's the point of regulating your own activities?

The Brain

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 01, 2015, 03:18:33 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on December 01, 2015, 12:11:33 PM
Government regulation & government ownership are not the same things. One doesn't have to preclude the other.

What's the point of regulating your own activities?

Rhetorical?
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Jacob

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 01, 2015, 03:18:33 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on December 01, 2015, 12:11:33 PM
Government regulation & government ownership are not the same things. One doesn't have to preclude the other.

What's the point of regulating your own activities?

Accountability to your stakeholders.

A transparent and independent system of regulation is pretty useful, even if one of the actors being regulated is ultimately accountable to the same entity.

I mean, the Constitution regulates how government carries out its own activities in the US. Plenty of people see value in that.

Valmy

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 01, 2015, 03:18:33 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on December 01, 2015, 12:11:33 PM
Government regulation & government ownership are not the same things. One doesn't have to preclude the other.

What's the point of regulating your own activities?

Um because you have to? The Army has regulations. You get issued a regulation weapon that must be cared for in a regulation manner.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

garbon

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mongers

Quote from: garbon on December 01, 2015, 08:00:14 AM
I often see people on Oxford Street riding about on those. <_<

[Garbon]

You shop on Oxford street.  :(

[/Garbon]
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DGuller

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 01, 2015, 03:18:33 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on December 01, 2015, 12:11:33 PM
Government regulation & government ownership are not the same things. One doesn't have to preclude the other.

What's the point of regulating your own activities?
Because the government, like every other complex organization, consists of many people, and people taken together work more effectively when bound by some rules?

Admiral Yi

Quote from: DGuller on December 01, 2015, 04:00:16 PM
Because the government, like every other complex organization, consists of many people, and people taken together work more effectively when bound by some rules?

Sure, but that could be accomplished by setting policy.  We will do things this way.  We will hire people to do things this way.  We will fire people who don't do things this way.