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Syt

My Latin prof at university said that the New Testament at least was written in colloquial language of Greek speaking Jews of the time which helped a lot in spreading the message. He argued that instead of translating it in for us stilted language (think, "Hear ye!") it should be translated with a similar tone ("Listen, yo!"), but because it's a Holy Text, people translated it for a long time as literally as possible, to make sure the Word of GOD(TM) remains untainted.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

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DGuller

Quote from: Syt on October 22, 2014, 02:15:24 AM
My Latin prof at university said that the New Testament at least was written in colloquial language of Greek speaking Jews of the time which helped a lot in spreading the message. He argued that instead of translating it in for us stilted language (think, "Hear ye!") it should be translated with a similar tone ("Listen, yo!"), but because it's a Holy Text, people translated it for a long time as literally as possible, to make sure the Word of GOD(TM) remains untainted.
:lol:  But, yeah, lots of people often forget that the purpose of language is communication, not intellectual dick-waving.

Malthus

Quote from: Tonitrus on October 21, 2014, 09:19:39 PM
We named a ship after Jimmy Carter.

Cue 'attacking rabbit' jokes.  ;)
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Syt on October 22, 2014, 02:15:24 AM
My Latin prof at university said that the New Testament at least was written in colloquial language of Greek speaking Jews of the time which helped a lot in spreading the message.

The different NT books were written by different people.  The writing style varies across the book.  Some of them were written in a more educated literary style, some not.  Mark is often cited for its poor Greek styling (for example, he begins lots of sentences with "kai" ("and")).   Not to pick on Mark - whatever the merits of the styling, it's a gripping book.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

garbon

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 22, 2014, 11:33:33 AM
Quote from: Syt on October 22, 2014, 02:15:24 AM
My Latin prof at university said that the New Testament at least was written in colloquial language of Greek speaking Jews of the time which helped a lot in spreading the message.

The different NT books were written by different people.  The writing style varies across the book.  Some of them were written in a more educated literary style, some not.  Mark is often cited for its poor Greek styling (for example, he begins lots of sentences with "kai" ("and")).   Not to pick on Mark - whatever the merits of the styling, it's a gripping book.

Gripping?
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.


Eddie Teach

Quote from: garbon on October 22, 2014, 12:05:00 PM
Gripping?

Well, the main character does die and come back to life.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 22, 2014, 03:14:43 PM
Well, the main character does die and come back to life.

Not explicitly in Mark, the ending is more enigmatic.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Tonitrus

#43643
Thinking of Hitler when having coffee or chocolate cake might be good for the diet. :)

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/23/world/europe/swiss-company-apologizes-for-hitler-coffee-cream-containers.html?_r=0

QuotePARIS — The labels on Swiss mini-cream containers tend toward the pastoral and cuddly, with pleasant images of Alpine landscapes and locomotives, or dogs and cats. So it was something of a shock to one consumer at a Swiss train station to find the face of Hitler staring back at him when he reached to lighten his morning coffee.

Migros, a Swiss retail giant, said it did not know exactly how the image came to be on the label. But it offered its apologies Wednesday for the "unforgivable incident" and withdrew about 2,000 containers, some of which also featured the face of Mussolini, from about 100 cafes in the German-speaking part of Switzerland.

Tristan Cerf, a spokesman for Migros, said by telephone from Lausanne on Wednesday that the company had been horrified by the failure of its internal controls to detect the images on its cream containers.

He said the problem had come to Migros's attention after a customer drinking coffee at the Baden train station was startled by the discovery and sent a photo of the label to the newspaper 20 Minutes.

In coffee-loving Switzerland, labels from the mini-cream containers are cult collectibles, and producers often seek new and inventive ways to enhance their appeal.

Mr. Cerf said the mishap had occurred when an outside company asked ELSA, a dairy manufacturer and Migros subsidiary, to supply a series of 55 coffee cream containers based on vintage cigar labels, two of which featured the dictators.

He said that the outside company had provided the controversial designs, and that ELSA typically produced plastic creamers with charming and innocuous images on them — not fascists.

"I can't tell you how these labels got past our controls," Mr. Cerf said. "Usually the labels have pleasant images like trains, landscapes and dogs — nothing polemic that can pose a problem."

Switzerland has in the past been forced to grapple with its relationship with the Nazis during World War II, including accusations that Swiss banks abetted the National Socialist regime.

But Mr. Cerf emphasized that the accidental circulation of the plastic Hitler creamers had nothing to do with the country's social mores, but rather reflected an isolated mistake.

Migros is not the first company to run into such trouble. In the spring, a German furniture chain apologized for selling ceramic mugs with Hitler's face on them, saying a Chinese designer had mistakenly used an old image of a stamp bearing the dictator's image behind an antique motif of roses.

"Whoever made this mistake was not thinking properly," Mr. Cerf said of his company's creamers, "as these aren't images accompanying a book about World War II, but rather something meant to be enjoyed with coffee and a chocolate cake.

"You cannot put Pol Pot or a terrorist on a milk creamer," he added. "It is unacceptable."


mongers

RIP Alvin Stardust:

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Alvin Stardust, glam rock singer, dies aged 72

Singer Alvin Stardust has died aged 72 after a short illness.

He had recently been diagnosed with metastatic prostate cancer and died at home with his wife, Julie, and family around him, his manager said.

Born Bernard Jewry in the East End of London in 1942, his hits included My Coo Ca Choo, Jealous Mind and I Feel Like Buddy Holly.

The former glam rock star had been due to release his first studio album in 30 years on 3 November.
.......

:(

Full article, together with entertaining video here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-29741028
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Tamas

Two guys serve McDonalds food to food experts as organic food. Surprise, experts love it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qa6QXBxxWw#t=173

Syt

http://en.ria.ru/russia/20141023/194497883/Russia-Remembers-Nord-Ost-Incident.html
QuoteAfter two and a half days of siege, Russian Special Forces (Spetznas) successfully raided the theater, killing all of the attackers. Whilst there were no casualties amongst the Spetznas, 128 hostages died during the two-and-a-half-day raid, newspaper Gazeta said.
:lol:
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

DGuller

Quote from: Syt on October 23, 2014, 12:51:16 PM
http://en.ria.ru/russia/20141023/194497883/Russia-Remembers-Nord-Ost-Incident.html
QuoteAfter two and a half days of siege, Russian Special Forces (Spetznas) successfully raided the theater, killing all of the attackers. Whilst there were no casualties amongst the Spetznas, 128 hostages died during the two-and-a-half-day raid, newspaper Gazeta said.
:lol:
Their mission was to prevent the terrorists from killing the hostages, and in that they largely succeeded.