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[HVC]

I had no idea roombas were online only. Nor that they were going under.
Madness.

Someone needs to invent a roomba crossed with a bulldozer so you don't have to clean your floor before using it. Just push everything to the side.

Great until you have a pet and smear his accident across all your floors


*Edit*  as for going out of business they shitified their product and allowed themselves to be outcompeted by Chinese companies like dreame and roborock.

[Josquius]

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[Sheilbh]

Probably feeding into lots of conversations here, but this seems bad:


Related to the US - but I think maybe more widespread: https://www.wsj.com/articles/americans-pull-back-from-values-that-once-defined-u-s-wsj-norc-poll-finds-df8534cd - it'd be interesting to see the more granular year by year polling, but I suspect covid was an inflection point.

[Josquius]

Top 2- Meh
Bottom 3- bad.... But I would wonder about eggs and chickens.

[Razgovory]

"Why won't you do more to save the country you hate?"

[Sheilbh]

Top 2- Meh
Bottom 3- bad.... But I would wonder about eggs and chickens.

I don't think that the top two are being shed because people now feel an enlightened post-nationalism or confessionalism feeling an equal or greater obligation to all humanity. I think it's that they don't feel obligated or beholden or connected to anyone.

[Tamas]

Like I usually say, I don't want to outright dismiss such concerns, but it is important we remember that we are now in the age group (entering it or way into it) when it is the most cliche thing imaginable to see society regressing and falling apart.

It might actually be happening for real but also much more likely it is just us slowly losing touch.

For one, "not enough religion, patriotism, not wanting children" - my whole fucking life conservatives and the far-right have been crying about these things and used them as an excuse to do more for the actual regressing of society than any urban childless atheist ever did.

[The Brain]

Biden body-slammed the desire for community involvement into oblivion.

[Josquius]

Top 2- Meh
Bottom 3- bad.... But I would wonder about eggs and chickens.

I don't think that the top two are being shed because people now feel an enlightened post-nationalism or confessionalism feeling an equal or greater obligation to all humanity. I think it's that they don't feel obligated or beholden or connected to anyone.

I can't remember where I read it.... I might have heard it on the rest is politics or somewhere like this. But it rang very true of what I've seen in person.

In local communities the people running the local food bank, doing voluntary litter picks, and generally doing all the really great stuff that helps communities get by- these tend not to be the frothing nationalist Tory/Reform voters who endlessly moan about the decline of community and blame it on the immigrants/trans/whoever.

Rather they tend to be the pretty hippyish, zero care for the flag, Green/Labour voters.

Big difference between patriotism and nationalism of course. A decline in patriotism isn't the thing to celebrate that a decline in nationalism would be (hence meh). But I don't see that its particularly necessary for people to live a good life. The 2 at the bottom left meanwhile...

Money is a funny one as.... The obvious in seeing it as a very important value is sad and depressing. But it is of course a cornerstone of society and necessary to do good things. Lots of interpretation there.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Smells like a partially covid induced change.

[Richard Hakluyt]

I would have thought that money is very important to 100% of the population 

It would be pretty shit not to have any money in a modern economy after all.

But in what way is it a "value" anyway    ?


As regards the rest of them I think that the long term consequence will be the death of the welfare state and the NHS (loud cheers from Magaland no doubt).

Shame that the replacement seems to be an oligarchy based on financial wealth.