The Off Topic Topic

[HVC]

Give your hands something to do.

[Maladict]

They do work. Obviously the big advantage is in mountainous terrain, but even on flat ground I'm up to 0.5kph faster using them. It also eliminates sausage fingers, which is a nice bonus. The downside is the risk of tripping over them and falling down a mountain to an embarrassing death. And looking like a dork, at least outside proper hiking environments.

[crazy canuck]

Yeah, Mrs. CC convinced me to give them a try and they help a lot if you are going over uneven terrain and if you are doing a hike over uneven steep terrain you really should be using them.

It's both more safe and you can go faster.

[mongers]

Poles ought to be able to go hiking just like any other nationality.

 

[mongers]

They do work. Obviously the big advantage is in mountainous terrain, but even on flat ground I'm up to 0.5kph faster using them. It also eliminates sausage fingers, which is a nice bonus. The downside is the risk of tripping over them and falling down a mountain to an embarrassing death. And looking like a dork, at least outside proper hiking environments.

Thanks, I shall reconsider my gut instinct; though maybe it's just my reaction to having more stuff to carry or bother about.

[Tamas]

I am going to have the radiator replaced on my aging Avensis but that's it, it's the last significant spend on it. I have convinced the wife to give a compact EV suv a try next year.

Will test if we can fit ourselves into a Hyundai Kona, but I have grave doubts about it. Do you know anyone who has one?

[Grey Fox]

Don't dismiss the Kia Niro, it's a little more family friendly  in its design.

I have a coworker with a electric Kona. Dude has 3 boys and it's his daily driver.
This being NA, he also owns a giant SUV for road trips and such.

[Tamas]

Thanks, Kia Nero is deco the other candidate as it does seem to be bigger enough to make a difference. The Kona looks cooler though. Even in the 2021 generation we are aiming for.

[Grey Fox]

I used to have a Kia Rondo as the family car(Niro's ancestor). Until the suspension started breaking regularly it was a great family car. Much cheaper on gas than a minivan.

Only bad side was that since that car was never sold in the USA, many services and parts were only available at great cost from Korea.

[Josquius]

My piece of shit citroen is now out of warranty and the oil light won't go away.
A key push for emigrating is to get somewhere I don't need anything to do with cars. Just constant bother.

[mongers]

My piece of shit citroen is now out of warranty and the oil light won't go away.
A key push for emigrating is to get somewhere I don't need anything to do with cars. Just constant bother.

Sark or Crouch End it is then. 

[Josquius]

My piece of shit citroen is now out of warranty and the oil light won't go away.
A key push for emigrating is to get somewhere I don't need anything to do with cars. Just constant bother.

Sark or Crouch End it is then. 

Crouch end?

Don't forget zermatt.

Alas a place where cars just don't exist is a far away dream. But just somewhere they're optional without massively inconveniencing yourself would be nice.

[HVC]

London  

[Grey Fox]

Guangzhou does look like it's viable without a car.

[Admiral Yi]

Mackinac Island, Michigan.