The Off Topic Topic

[HVC]

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That's a way to educate about jaywalking,  I guess lol

[Admiral Yi]

I hate it when people jaywalk badly.  It's your responsibility not to inconvenience the driver if they have the light.

[The Brain]

I have two rules:

1. No remotely relevant traffic.
2. No kids nearby.

[HVC]

I have two rules:

1. No remotely relevant traffic.
2. No kids nearby.

Those rules could work for a lot of situations.

[crazy canuck]

A lot of people don't realize that they are breaking the law when they cross at an intersection when the don't walk signal is flashing - a lot of people view it as a warning they have to hurry across the street.  the VPD have a week every year ticketing such people to try to educate - but it doesn't work.  They also tried signs saying don't walk when flashing.  But also ineffective.  Finally in some of the most congested intersections in the downtown area they stopped with the flashing signal and adjusted the lights for cars so that they could not enter the intersection until well after the solid don't walk signal was displayed.  Created much better flow for traffic.

[viper37]

A lot of people don't realize that they are breaking the law when they cross at an intersection when the don't walk signal is flashing - a lot of people view it as a warning they have to hurry across the street.  the VPD have a week every year ticketing such people to try to educate - but it doesn't work.  They also tried signs saying don't walk when flashing.  But also ineffective.  Finally in some of the most congested intersections in the downtown area they stopped with the flashing signal and adjusted the lights for cars so that they could not enter the intersection until well after the solid don't walk signal was displayed.  Created much better flow for traffic.

it took a full century for drivers to learn what a yellow light means.  Give it another 60-80 years for pedestrians, at least.

[Josquius]

A lot of people don't realize that they are breaking the law when they cross at an intersection when the don't walk signal is flashing - a lot of people view it as a warning they have to hurry across the street.  the VPD have a week every year ticketing such people to try to educate - but it doesn't work.  They also tried signs saying don't walk when flashing.  But also ineffective.  Finally in some of the most congested intersections in the downtown area they stopped with the flashing signal and adjusted the lights for cars so that they could not enter the intersection until well after the solid don't walk signal was displayed.  Created much better flow for traffic.

Places where this is the law are weird.
The whole concept of Jay walking is an invention of the auto industry.

[HVC]

Well I've discovered the route of try's hatred of cars. He's obviously been hit several times while jaywalking

[Admiral Yi]

The whole concept of Jay walking is an invention of the auto industry.

It might have had something to do with the fact that getting hit by a car is worse than getting hit by a horse.

[garbon]

The whole concept of Jay walking is an invention of the auto industry.

It might have had something to do with the fact that getting hit by a car is worse than getting hit by a horse.

On the other hand, I'm not sure I've ever lived anywhere where jaywalking was not the norm.

[DGuller]

My first day in DC, me and my coworker were stopped by a cop and given a stern lecture on jaywalking. 

[Admiral Yi]

On the other hand, I'm not sure I've ever lived anywhere where jaywalking was not the norm.

Germans are totally anal about jaywalking.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Nearly got arrested in communist Yugoslavia for jaywalking back in the day 

The cops demanded ID and i didn't have any as my passport was being held by the campsite office; so I offered them the plastic token the campsite had given me to put on my tent.

There were formidable linguistic barriers so they decided that they just couldn't be arsed to arrest me; I decided to cross roads more carefully. At some busy traffic areas they had crossings manned by young women wearing a white leather uniform; including leather miniskirt and boots    .

There is no such thing as jaywalking in the UK of course, hence the confusion.

[Josquius]

Yes. Once in Japan i crossed a small single lane street despite the red being light as there were zero cars there. A policeman saw this and got angry at me nonetheless. Madness.
Needless to say he didn't speak much English and I pretended to speak about as much so nothing came of it.

The whole concept of Jay walking is an invention of the auto industry.

It might have had something to do with the fact that getting hit by a car is worse than getting hit by a horse.

The solution to which is to control the cars, not to pass mad laws to control where people can and can't walk.

[Admiral Yi]

There are a number of possible solutions, the best one IMO being to optimize *all* people's time savings, and that is the system I believe is currently being employed.

It has the advantage of not being based on tribalist thinking.