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Valmy

Quote from: Oexmelin on May 06, 2021, 01:45:27 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 06, 2021, 01:40:06 PM
that's booth very cool, and sad (not for your friend, for MC Hammer lol)

It's actually not. I discovered then that actually, MC Hammer has been devouring works of history related to the early modern Atlantic World - including on some really niche topics (history of cartography, visual representations, etc.). He offered to host.

Hey we all grow up eventually. Even late 80s/early 90s pop stars. Good for MC Hammer.
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Josquius

That's pretty awesome and weird.
Hammer needs to get back to the music, taking his new hobby with him.
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: HVC on May 06, 2021, 01:40:06 PM
that's booth very cool, and sad (not for your friend, for MC Hammer lol)

Shit, I thought he was doing construction or something. This sounds like a nice gig.
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grumbler

Quote from: Tyr on May 06, 2021, 02:56:28 PM
That's pretty awesome and weird.
Hammer needs to get back to the music, taking his new hobby with him.

:yes:  Al Stewart is getting a bit old to be carrying the historical music torch.
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celedhring



This was gut-wrenching.

Lennon, Joplin, Hendrix  - not necessarily my favorites of the list (that would be Bowie), but they still had a long career ahead of them when they died.

Tamas

Hello, I choose Johnny Cash.

Eddie Teach

I'm not going to waste my rez scrolls on celebrities.
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The Larch

Let's give it some thought rather than acting by instinct. I'd instantly trim it down to all that didn't die because of natural causes, so the pool would go down to Jackson, Cobain, Joplin, Hendrix, Houston, Petty, Morrison, Lennon and 2Pac. From those, I'd rule out those that were already "past it" by the time they died, so we'd keep Cobain, Joplin, Hendrix, Morrison, Lennon and 2Pac, four members of the "27 club", plus Lennon (who maybe shouldn't be included as his music career was not that great by 1980) and 2Pac. Now let's go case by case basis:

- Cobain I think I'll leave behind. He took his own life, after all, so saving him now might keep him alive only for a short time. I'd be really curious to know how he'd have evolved if he lived, as grunge didn't remain relevant much longer after his death.
- Lennon I think I'll also leave behind. As I mentioned, by the time he died, even though he was a world class celebrity, he was not a prominent artist anymore. His last solo record were inane corvers of old rock n roll songs, and his work with Yoko Ono is nothing to write home about. Besides, he might be a more powerful figure in death than alive, so he stays beyond.
- Out of the Big 3 from the 60s, I'm leering towards keeping Jim Morrison in his grave, as I don't think that his artistry would have evolved well into the 70s.

So, I'd end up with Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin and 2Pac.

I'd have included Amy Winehouse in the discussion.

Josquius

I'm not sure who several of those are
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The Larch

Quote from: Tyr on May 07, 2021, 08:47:27 AM
I'm not sure who several of those are

Left to right, top to bottom:

Michael Jackson, Kurt Cobain, Freddy Mercury, Bob Marley.
Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, David Bowie, Prince.
Whitney Houston, Elvis Presley, Tom Petty, Jim Morrison.
Ray Charles, Johnny Cash, John Lennon, 2Pac Shakur.

HVC

trying to think which one someone would recognize? tom petty. just based on the picture, not the singer.
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Agelastus

Quote from: The Larch on May 07, 2021, 08:51:37 AM
Quote from: Tyr on May 07, 2021, 08:47:27 AM
I'm not sure who several of those are

Left to right, top to bottom:

Michael Jackson, Kurt Cobain, Freddy Mercury, Bob Marley.
Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, David Bowie, Prince.
Whitney Houston, Elvis Presley, Tom Petty, Jim Morrison.
Ray Charles, Johnny Cash, John Lennon, 2Pac Shakur.

Thanks.

Mercury, Hendrix, Lennon would be my choices.
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celedhring

Quote from: The Larch on May 07, 2021, 08:39:42 AM
- Lennon I think I'll also leave behind. As I mentioned, by the time he died, even though he was a world class celebrity, he was not a prominent artist anymore. His last solo record were inane corvers of old rock n roll songs, and his work with Yoko Ono is nothing to write home about. Besides, he might be a more powerful figure in death than alive, so he stays beyond.

Double Fantasy had some cute songs. He'd taken a hiatus to take care of his son, I think calling him washed is a bit premature.

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I'd have included Amy Winehouse in the discussion.

Definitely.

grumbler

Quote from: celedhring on May 07, 2021, 10:24:14 AM
Double Fantasy had some cute songs. He'd taken a hiatus to take care of his son, I think calling him washed is a bit premature.

Double Fantasy was a wretched failure until Lennon was assassinated.  It is the evidence that Lennon was, indeed, washed up.
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