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Eddie Teach

#66840
May 30, 2018, 08:20:21 PM
Because they watch Fox News. Which is what I said.  :huh:
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

ulmont

#66841
May 30, 2018, 08:39:27 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 30, 2018, 07:10:03 PM
Yeah what happened to the Koch brothers hysteria? I guess with Trump around there is no room for other bogeymen.

Still around, mostly in Democratic fundraising emails.  Saw several (or the same one several times; I lose track) for Beto in Texas fundraising off of the Koch brothers recently.

Valmy

#66842
May 30, 2018, 08:42:05 PM Last Edit: May 30, 2018, 08:45:20 PM by Valmy
Quote from: ulmont on May 30, 2018, 08:39:27 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 30, 2018, 07:10:03 PM
Yeah what happened to the Koch brothers hysteria? I guess with Trump around there is no room for other bogeymen.

Still around, mostly in Democratic fundraising emails.  Saw several (or the same one several times; I lose track) for Beto in Texas fundraising off of the Koch brothers recently.

Pity. I really hate that shit. All this fear mongering is dangerous. But preaching the issues never raises money.

Heck I am not even aware if the Koch Brothers are pro or anti Trump.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Razgovory

#66843
May 30, 2018, 08:58:59 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on May 30, 2018, 08:20:21 PM
Because they watch Fox News. Which is what I said.  :huh:


Okay... Why is Fox News talking about him rather than people who donate more to Democratic causes?  Why is Soros the one being accused of being an octopus and not Steyer?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Eddie Teach

#66844
May 30, 2018, 09:20:29 PM
I don't know. I just know he's talked about.

Surely there are other Jewish donors who could be talked about. I don't think that is sufficient explanation.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Barrister

#66845
May 30, 2018, 09:45:19 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 30, 2018, 08:42:05 PM
Heck I am not even aware if the Koch Brothers are pro or anti Trump.

IIRC they were anti-Trump at first, but have made some level of peace with him.  But they're hardly in his inner circle.
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Razgovory

#66846
May 30, 2018, 10:42:39 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on May 30, 2018, 09:20:29 PM
I don't know. I just know he's talked about.

Surely there are other Jewish donors who could be talked about. I don't think that is sufficient explanation.

Okay.  Why do you suppose Soros is a major figure in the Propaganda of the Middle East and Eastern Europe?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Eddie Teach

#66847
May 30, 2018, 11:18:17 PM
I don't know.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Valmy

#66848
May 30, 2018, 11:51:00 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on May 30, 2018, 11:18:17 PM
I don't know.

Yeah it is one of life's great secrets wrapped in an enigma and smothered in secret sauce.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

The Minsky Moment

#66849
May 31, 2018, 02:59:56 AM
Quote from: The Larch on May 30, 2018, 06:05:51 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on May 30, 2018, 01:59:28 PM
Soros is also the most popular Elder amongst our Far Right. Fortunately our neo-nazi parties have a minuscule following.

You know the PP guy that was dismissed from the European Council recently for taking bribes from Azerbayan? He also blamed Soros for everything, so it's getting popular outside of far right circles.

This is the problem - tinfoil hat crazy stuff going mainstream.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

The Minsky Moment

#66850
May 31, 2018, 03:04:20 AM Last Edit: May 31, 2018, 03:06:00 AM by The Minsky Moment
Soros carries some mystique for his role in breaking the ERM - it's the kind of thing you'd expect a Jewish banker supervillain to do if that's how you view the world.  He is a "globalist" and funds civil society groups around the world.  He writes books that make claims to a philosophical system.  He fits the part of Elder of Zion type bogeyman more than say Steyer, who is just a successful hedge fund manager that gives money to US Democrats. 

Plus Steyer is only half-Jewish.  It'd be like an octopus with only 4 arms.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

celedhring

#66851
May 31, 2018, 05:34:30 AM Last Edit: May 31, 2018, 05:40:41 AM by celedhring
Ok, barring major surprise the Spanish government will indeed fall as right now it looks like the socialists will win the motion of no confidence leading what the right calls a "Frankenstein Platform" of lefties, leftier lefties, Basque nationalists and Catalan separatists. However, the new government will be very weak - we'll probably be headed towards an election before the current term finishes in late 2020 (and the socialist candidate has indeed intimated it).

Fun times ahead, but ousting the conservatives was a bit of a moral necessity. I'd have preferred an election or a coalition with the liberals (but that was never going to happen given both parties' tactical interests and current seat counts), but that's where we'll probably end up within the next 12-18 months.

celedhring

#66852
May 31, 2018, 09:48:14 AM
Confirmed. The vote will take part tomorrow but during today's debate the Socialist candidate has received the verbal backing of enough groups to win the motion.

There's rumours that President Rajoy might resign before the vote takes place.

derspiess

#66853
May 31, 2018, 09:53:56 AM
Whenever I hear a European talk about their government falling, I immediately get these mental images of doom & gloom-- anarchy in the streets, revolutionaries storming a palace, etc.

Glad it's more peaceful than that :)
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

celedhring

#66854
May 31, 2018, 10:25:23 AM Last Edit: May 31, 2018, 10:28:57 AM by celedhring
Last time we faced a similar scenario (Catalonia declaring a failed independence, the left ousting the right from power), we ended up staring at one million dead in a civil war.  :hmm:

We'll be fine this time.
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