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garbon

Quote from: DGuller on December 31, 2016, 10:59:56 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 31, 2016, 09:52:18 AM
Quote from: DGuller on December 30, 2016, 09:33:39 AM
Quote from: Tyr on December 30, 2016, 09:31:04 AM
Goes against my experience of internships.
The job interview side of it is very much a secondary consideration.
Internships are far more about making the company look good, socially responsible and open to the new ideas of the next generation; and cheap labour.
I've been on the hiring side of internships.  We truly hired interns in order to audition them, so we put some effort into finding the best candidates and holding on to the ones who proved impressive at work.

I agree with your premise but in this circumstance they all showed terrible judgment.   They had already asked their respective managers if the policy could be relaxed and they were told that it would not be possible.  So then they decided to sign a petition.   :frusty:
But the first mistake was the petition, asking the managers was fine.  It was a pretty big error of judgment, but canning someone fo their first mistake is a bit harsh and counter-productive (unless it indicates lack of integrity or truly catastrophic judgment).

Depends on how severe one considers the mistake.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: DGuller on December 31, 2016, 10:59:56 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 31, 2016, 09:52:18 AM
Quote from: DGuller on December 30, 2016, 09:33:39 AM
Quote from: Tyr on December 30, 2016, 09:31:04 AM
Goes against my experience of internships.
The job interview side of it is very much a secondary consideration.
Internships are far more about making the company look good, socially responsible and open to the new ideas of the next generation; and cheap labour.
I've been on the hiring side of internships.  We truly hired interns in order to audition them, so we put some effort into finding the best candidates and holding on to the ones who proved impressive at work.

I agree with your premise but in this circumstance they all showed terrible judgment.   They had already asked their respective managers if the policy could be relaxed and they were told that it would not be possible.  So then they decided to sign a petition.   :frusty:
But the first mistake was the petition, asking the managers was fine.  It was a pretty big error of judgment, but canning someone fo their first mistake is a bit harsh and counter-productive (unless it indicates lack of integrity or truly catastrophic judgment).

Yes, asking the managers was fine.  Signing a petition after already being told no is just so amazingly stupid that I can fully understand why a judgment was made that there was no point in carrying on with the ones who signed it.

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grumbler

Quote from: Grey Fox on December 29, 2016, 06:17:02 PM
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: crazy canuck on December 31, 2016, 12:14:44 PM
Quote from: DGuller on December 31, 2016, 10:59:56 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 31, 2016, 09:52:18 AM
Quote from: DGuller on December 30, 2016, 09:33:39 AM
Quote from: Tyr on December 30, 2016, 09:31:04 AM
Goes against my experience of internships.
The job interview side of it is very much a secondary consideration.
Internships are far more about making the company look good, socially responsible and open to the new ideas of the next generation; and cheap labour.
I've been on the hiring side of internships.  We truly hired interns in order to audition them, so we put some effort into finding the best candidates and holding on to the ones who proved impressive at work.

I agree with your premise but in this circumstance they all showed terrible judgment.   They had already asked their respective managers if the policy could be relaxed and they were told that it would not be possible.  So then they decided to sign a petition.   :frusty:
But the first mistake was the petition, asking the managers was fine.  It was a pretty big error of judgment, but canning someone fo their first mistake is a bit harsh and counter-productive (unless it indicates lack of integrity or truly catastrophic judgment).

Yes, asking the managers was fine.  Signing a petition after already being told no is just so amazingly stupid that I can fully understand why a judgment was made that there was no point in carrying on with the ones who signed it.

Which was all but one of them apparently. Even if you really want to fire them all, it seems logistically unwise to do so. 
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alfred russel

Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 01, 2017, 11:09:10 PM

Which was all but one of them apparently. Even if you really want to fire them all, it seems logistically unwise to do so.

Tim, I can't speak for everywhere, but in my experience interns are completely useless as productive assets. The most common use of them (that I've seen) is for recruiting, and in that way they can often actually be a negative drain on productivity (they may only be there 2 or 3 months, there is a push to give them high impact work to test their skills and make them prone to accept an offer, which combines to lots of training, lots of corrections to their work, and before they ever start to get the hang of it, they are gone).

I've also seen interns added because some exec made a promise to do so at his church group, and it was actually pointless in every way.

I've never been in a place where firing all the interns would present logisitical problems. Though I'm sure such places exist.
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Syt

In some Vienna subway stations some old phone booths are getting replaced with vending machines for cell phone accessories:

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celedhring

Quote from: Syt on January 02, 2017, 03:07:26 AM
In some Vienna subway stations some old phone booths are getting replaced with vending machines for cell phone accessories:



We have had those for years over here. I have bought a thing or two off them  :blush:

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I've seen them in every airport I've been in in the last few years.
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Josquius

I'm sure the only reason the cluster of phone boxes near my metro station still exists is that it is where the drug dealers do their business.

And the only reason the nearby public toilets exist are for users.
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