The Off Topic Topic

[Valmy]

I have been wondering what age is the best to give your kids phones. 8 seems a bit soon but I am glad you get to test it out for me

[Maladict]

our emails auto delete after a year

Any particular reason for this?

[Zanza]

He works for Hillary Clinton.

[Ed Anger]

I have been wondering what age is the best to give your kids phones. 8 seems a bit soon but I am glad you get to test it out for me

I thought it was too soon too, but they was using youtube to look up videos for math help. Educational!

Poop emojis....well they are my children after all. 

[alfred russel]

our emails auto delete after a year

Any particular reason for this?

Legal wants it. It is apparently a thing to subpoena all emails in certain legal cases, and inevitably someone said something stupid in one. So the answer is to just dump all of them. It was initially after 6 months, but that got changed to 12.

Interestingly, some people in legal are now printing out all of their emails to make sure they have records of what third parties may have agreed to in emails. There are massive stacks of paper everywhere. It is chaos.

[Maladict]

Interestingly, some people in legal are now printing out all of their emails to make sure they have records of what third parties may have agreed to in emails. There are massive stacks of paper everywhere. It is chaos.

Yes, exactly. And what if you have projects/cases that run for over a year?
I can't imagine having to work like that, I never delete emails and it has saved me (and the company) a lot of trouble.

[DGuller]

our emails auto delete after a year

Any particular reason for this?

Legal wants it. It is apparently a thing to subpoena all emails in certain legal cases, and inevitably someone said something stupid in one. So the answer is to just dump all of them. It was initially after 6 months, but that got changed to 12.

Interestingly, some people in legal are now printing out all of their emails to make sure they have records of what third parties may have agreed to in emails. There are massive stacks of paper everywhere. It is chaos.

Don't you need to keep records for a certain amount of time?  I know my old company had to keep everything available for the last 7 years.  You may delete your own e-mails, but they'll still be on the servers.

[CountDeMoney]

Yes, exactly. And what if you have projects/cases that run for over a year?
I can't imagine having to work like that, I never delete emails and it has saved me (and the company) a lot of trouble.

There's guy at work--accomplished STEM professional, higher degrees, position of agency authority--was bitching the other day about how "slow" his computer was, because he needed to search for something in his Outlook. 
WTF!  This stupid laptop is too slow! This network has so many problems!  Stupid government!

I look at the bottom of the screen.  Number of emails in Inbox:  over 57,000.  In the Inbox.



Servers archives? Records management?  Backup?  A control freak that refuses to learn basic Office proficiency craves not these things.

[DGuller]

Yes, exactly. And what if you have projects/cases that run for over a year?
I can't imagine having to work like that, I never delete emails and it has saved me (and the company) a lot of trouble.

There's guy at work--accomplished STEM professional, higher degrees, position of agency authority--was bitching the other day about how "slow" his computer was, because he needed to search for something in his Outlook. 
WTF!  This stupid laptop is too slow! This network has so many problems!  Stupid government!

I look at the bottom of the screen.  Number of emails in Inbox:  over 57,000.  In the Inbox.



Servers archives? Records management?  Backup?  A control freak that refuses to learn basic Office proficiency craves not these things.

Still that shouldn't affect search speed, unless the inbox isn't indexed.  And if it isn't indexed, the guy has a point.

[alfred russel]

Interestingly, some people in legal are now printing out all of their emails to make sure they have records of what third parties may have agreed to in emails. There are massive stacks of paper everywhere. It is chaos.

Yes, exactly. And what if you have projects/cases that run for over a year?
I can't imagine having to work like that, I never delete emails and it has saved me (and the company) a lot of trouble.

i didnt make the policy. it sucks for me too, but you can save emails you want to keep (as i saved the email in question).

dguller, yes there is a records retention policy. it does not apply to emails.

[11B4V]

Damn we got a 25 meg limit. Normally I save important ones to the hard drive. However I am constantly deleting large chunks of the inbox and sent folders.

Except when the IG comes two years later. They dig shit out of somewhere.

[CountDeMoney]

Still that shouldn't affect search speed, unless the inbox isn't indexed.  And if it isn't indexed, the guy has a point.

Searching for "Dave" in 57,000 emails in remote Outlook servers in a network supporting tens of thousands federal employees on any given business day? Yeah, it's going to take more than 16 seconds.

But hey, you're the IT guy.

[Maladict]

Yes, exactly. And what if you have projects/cases that run for over a year?
I can't imagine having to work like that, I never delete emails and it has saved me (and the company) a lot of trouble.

There's guy at work--accomplished STEM professional, higher degrees, position of agency authority--was bitching the other day about how "slow" his computer was, because he needed to search for something in his Outlook. 
WTF!  This stupid laptop is too slow! This network has so many problems!  Stupid government!

I look at the bottom of the screen.  Number of emails in Inbox:  over 57,000.  In the Inbox.



Servers archives? Records management?  Backup?  A control freak that refuses to learn basic Office proficiency craves not these things.

Still that shouldn't affect search speed, unless the inbox isn't indexed.  And if it isn't indexed, the guy has a point.

Yeah, who needs folders when you have a decent search index. My inbox currently holds 14 Gb of emails, no subfolders.

[CountDeMoney]

Damn we got a 25 meg limit. Normally I save important ones to the hard drive. However I am constantly deleting large chunks of the inbox and sent folders.

Except when the IG comes two years later. They dig shit out of somewhere.

I would print out emails for certain access control requests, for the sake of regulatory audit and change management silliness.

And there's the added bonus of addressing the "no I didn't yes you did no I didn't" discussions by pulling the binder and showing them personally, instead of dicking around with an episode of CSI: Enterprise Server Retention Logs.

[The Brain]

All kinds of email optimization and storage should be done under the hood. User shouldn't have to do shit.