The Off Topic Topic

[Sheilbh]

Yikes:
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2022/dec/13/an-unfinished-frankensteins-monster-the-disastrous-new-orange-county-museum-of-art?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

In retrospect maybe going for this architect was a mistake:

Thom Mayne, the 78-year-old Pritzker prize winning founder of Morphosis, has always had an interest in the provisional, contingent nature of architecture. "I have no interest in completing projects," he said in a recent interview. "A lot of our stuff just keeps moving; it refuses to have an edge, a boundary; it's in constant change."

The article has photos of some of the flaws, but this from someone on Twitter is the best. Digital architecture needs to be stopped and architects need to learn how to design buildable buildings again

The plans:


The building:

[HVC]

The real one is ugly and has weird angles... I thought you'd love it sheilbh

[HVC]

Really it looks like it just needs someone who knows how to make/install flashing. Call up some Portuguese roof guys, they'll fix it in a day.

[Eddie Teach]

I imagine it's hard to tie that to the early printing press lol. What's the percentage of old people in more print heavy countries?

I agree - I almost never think it's "culture" but it seems interesting that the countries that most got into the reformation and the role print culture played in that now have the highest readership of newspapers. For example the difference between Belgium (150 per 1,000) and the Netherlands (300 per 1,000).

In terms of age it's a bit mixed. In very broad terms though in general Southern Europe is older than Northern Europe.

*edit* Or even fake circulation, print to dump?

Yeah the readership figures are sightly different they're about respondents who consume printed press on a daily basis. So they shouldn't include any dumps - but might include people who read the paper in their office or at the library etc.

Are northern Europeans actually having more children, or is that due to immigration?

[Threviel]

Are northern Europeans actually having more children, or is that due to immigration?

Immigration and immigrants themselves having more kids.

[Iormlund]

It's not immigration.

Spain and Norway have similar rates of foreign born residents. Same with Denmark and Italy or Portugal. Yet fertility rates are much lower down south, especially for Spain and Italy.

[Josquius]

It's not immigration.

Spain and Norway have similar rates of foreign born residents. Same with Denmark and Italy or Portugal. Yet fertility rates are much lower down south, especially for Spain and Italy.

Isnt this down to migration too?

Albeit away from the south and into the north and overseas.

[Iormlund]

i suspect it has a lot more to do with access to housing.

[Sheilbh]

It's not immigration.

Spain and Norway have similar rates of foreign born residents. Same with Denmark and Italy or Portugal. Yet fertility rates are much lower down south, especially for Spain and Italy.

Yeah and I wouldn't necessarily distinguish Northern Europeans v immigrants given that all the Nordics, the UK, Netherlands and Germany are all now immigration societies that are multi-cultural and multi-racial (most of them have a higher foreign born population than the US). But so are Spain, Italy, France etc - so I'm not sure that's really a difference between North v South Europe

In the UK immigration is definitely part of it because migrant tend to be young (same reason they tend to be net contributors on tax/welfare) and sometimes have kids - so Birmingham claims to be one of, if not, the youngest city in Europe and a large part of that age profile is tied to migration.

[Sheilbh]

Yes! My favourite type of story - the great British tradition of the wildly underwhelming/fraudulent winter wonderland.

From the National contrasting the advertisements for an East Lothian winter wonderland:
https://twitter.com/ScotNational/status/1603094213415112704?s=20&t=hifNmMbwWlQs8B8HiWuZZg

For example:


Reality:

[Richard Hakluyt]

I would visit a winter wonderland, so that I could moan about it for weeks afterwards obvs, but I have this terrible fear that there would be a screwup and it would actually be quite good...which would ruin the whole experience 

[The Larch]

Truly a winter wonderland. 



It apparently costed 18 pounds per ticket. 

[Legbiter]

My God awful winter wonderlands is it's own genre in Britain. I had no idea. 







   

Not exactly this:

[Richard Hakluyt]

I'm not sure anyone with an IQ greater than 50 actually goes to them anymore. But like Sheilbh I greatly enjoy reading the articles about how awful they are; these articles have become a Christmas tradition in the past 10 or so years.

[The Larch]

I'm not sure anyone with an IQ greater than 50 actually goes to them anymore. But like Sheilbh I greatly enjoy reading the articles about how awful they are; these articles have become a Christmas tradition in the past 10 or so years.

If they have such a terrible track record then yeah, but I could see some families with small kids from a small town where not much happenes to end up tricked by one of these things.