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Valmy

Quote from: HVC on August 21, 2018, 07:30:12 AM
For all his faults he's good at the politics game.

You probably cannot crawl to the top of the Russian gangster heap without skills.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

The Brain

Quote from: DGuller on August 21, 2018, 08:01:03 AM
What I still can't comprehend is how open far-right politicians everywhere are at courting hostile foreign dictator.  It's like they're all falling over themselves going "I'm not a useful idiot, I'm a lot more than just useful".

They are indeed not useful idiots. They are ideologically committed to oppression. Just like the Europeans who sucked Soviet cock back in the day.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

alfred russel

Quote from: HVC on August 21, 2018, 07:30:12 AM
For all his faults he's good at the politics game.

But his country sucks and he has a bunch of sanctions on it.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

alfred russel

Start climbing the Matterhorn tomorrow am. If you don't here from me again, check the newspapers to see if some fellow from Atlanta fell off. :)
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

Valmy

Quote from: alfred russel on August 21, 2018, 02:13:14 PM
Quote from: HVC on August 21, 2018, 07:30:12 AM
For all his faults he's good at the politics game.

But his country sucks and he has a bunch of sanctions on it.

The fact that Russia sucks ass is something that Putin's admirers tend to skirt around, that is true.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

grumbler

Quote from: alfred russel on August 21, 2018, 02:15:11 PM
Start climbing the Matterhorn tomorrow am. If you don't here from me again, check the newspapers to see if some fellow from Atlanta fell off. :)

GL  :)
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

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alfred russel

Quote from: Valmy on August 21, 2018, 02:17:37 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on August 21, 2018, 02:13:14 PM
Quote from: HVC on August 21, 2018, 07:30:12 AM
For all his faults he's good at the politics game.

But his country sucks and he has a bunch of sanctions on it.

The fact that Russia sucks ass is something that Putin's admirers tend to skirt around, that is true.

I guess there are a few metrics that you can judge a politician, as a politician :

Is he good for his country? In Putin's case, his country is shitty. Arguably not his fault as Russia is working on a multi century losing streak.

Is he domestically popular? Putin is, but so are a lot of post communist strongmen.

Is he internationally successful? Here is I think the meat of what Hvc was getting at. His biggest pro is that he has cultivated a far right following around the world. That is offset by crippling international sanctions. Just look at the us: some contend he fixed the us election to bring in trump, but almost two years later the us continues sanctions against Russia.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

Zanza

Quote from: alfred russel on August 21, 2018, 02:15:11 PM
Start climbing the Matterhorn tomorrow am. If you don't here from me again, check the newspapers to see if some fellow from Atlanta fell off. :)
:cool: Good luck and have fun!

Jacob

My favourite Chinese food commercial in recent times: https://youtu.be/Yg1V54WjjWI

Tamas

Quote from: DGuller on August 21, 2018, 08:01:03 AM
What I still can't comprehend is how open far-right politicians everywhere are at courting hostile foreign dictator.  It's like they're all falling over themselves going "I'm not a useful idiot, I'm a lot more than just useful".

IIRC there was a global man-crush of far-right politicians on  Hitler. It must be their submissive homoerotic yearnings.

Duque de Bragança

Quote from: Tamas on August 22, 2018, 03:46:19 AM
Quote from: DGuller on August 21, 2018, 08:01:03 AM
What I still can't comprehend is how open far-right politicians everywhere are at courting hostile foreign dictator.  It's like they're all falling over themselves going "I'm not a useful idiot, I'm a lot more than just useful".

IIRC there was a global man-crush of far-right politicians on  Hitler. It must be their submissive homoerotic yearnings.

Putin is even more skilled at playing the extremes for his benefit. Far-left types also like him for some reason too,"resistance to US imperialism", though and turn a blind eye to the "drawbacks" of his régime.

derspiess

Quote from: Jacob on August 21, 2018, 11:48:55 PM
My favourite Chinese food commercial in recent times: https://youtu.be/Yg1V54WjjWI

Pretty epic commercial, obvious cultural appropriation aside.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

garbon

Quote from: derspiess on August 22, 2018, 09:22:53 AM
Quote from: Jacob on August 21, 2018, 11:48:55 PM
My favourite Chinese food commercial in recent times: https://youtu.be/Yg1V54WjjWI

Pretty epic commercial, obvious cultural appropriation aside.

That term doesn't mean what you are pretending it to mean.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

derspiess

Okay, maybe not epic.  But pretty darn cool.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall