EU Immigration Crisis Megathread

[The Brain]

It's just a jump to the left.

[LaCroix]

A piece on continent wide movement to the right:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/05/22/world/europe/europe-right-wing-austria-hungary.html

just glancing at the map, things don't seem that crazy. lots of the countries with current right-wing presence already had roughly similar right-wing tendencies at some point in time. countries like Czech/germany... eh, imo too early/small enough difference to tell if it's permanent. sweden,* finland, maybe britain are worrisome.

*black immigrant swede rape jokes have gone on for years and years, so I wonder why sweden only now slightly shifts right.

[The Brain]

The established parties in Sweden are a freak show, so small wonder an alternative appeared. It's even more wackadoodle but whatchagonnado.

[Tamas]

Yeah I mean, Hungary drifting to the far right... When was it NOT dritfing toward it (or gone full far right)? Ah that's right, when the communists killed everyone who was open about so drifting.

[Legbiter]

London mayor plans negative body image advert ban on Tube, buses and trains

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-36516378

[Liep]

Why is that in the immigration thread?

[Legbiter]

Continuation of a discussion on him a few pages back.

[Martinus]

London mayor plans negative body image advert ban on Tube, buses and trains

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-36516378

Well, to be fair, there isn't really that much difference these days between views of radical islamists and third wave feminists, so he could be coming at it from either angle.

[Martinus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecJUqhm2g08

[Sheilbh]

Good.

[Valmy]

Good.

Seems rather arbitrary. How are advertisers supposed to know if their advert satisfies this completely arbitrary and bizarre requirement? Make sure they bribe the right officials probably.

[Legbiter]

Well, to be fair, there isn't really that much difference these days between views of radical islamists and third wave feminists, so he could be coming at it from either angle.

Yes. The progressive left and Islam is a match made in heaven apparently. What a time to be alive, reality is more Houellebecq than the man himself.

[Legbiter]

Good.

Got to cover up the women.

[Berkut]

I'm all for killing jihadists, but who exactly should we exterminate? Just the actual jihadists fighting for Daesh? Their families? The imams whose speeches inspire them? Anyone who ever listens to Islamist ideology and does not immediately disagree? Some of these options are pretty Hitler. And of course, the war on terror has worked SO WELL.

Jihadists should be the only targets, though some collateral damage is inevitable.

Aren't they already? Clearly, it is not working so well since terrorism is still happening and people keep joining their ranks.

I would contest that conclusion.

How do you know it is "not working"?

[Sheilbh]

I don't get the arbitrariness here. TFL provides advertising space. They've got a publicly available policy which lists their standards. The mayor's added one which was in his manifesto and that of every other Labour party candidate.

And I had no idea this was a Muslim issue because I just remember every girl I know (and most guys too) were passed off about this issue when that ad ran last year.