EU Immigration Crisis Megathread

[Norgy]

The hashtag #Oktoberfestung (October Fortress) keeps popping up - cynics say that the Bavarian state has pressured the federal government to close the borders so that the October Fest can happen undisturbed.

Tasteful.

[Martinus]

No

No what? Do you disagree with what I said? The somewhat succesful faux "self-made-men" (who fail to recognise how the fact that they live outside of a conflict zone in a stable society has contributed immensely to them having a relatively good job and middle class life success) are usually the worst when it comes to helping others - because they see any attempt to get taxed as the government "stealing their money". It's the most morally degenerate group.

I think this experience comes directly from the people you associate with. Feeling "self-made" is pretty far off from average East European sentiment.

Don't know about Hungary, or other CEE countries I guess (I assumed they are similar to Poland), but in Poland it is a very popular sentiment.

[Syt]

@Norgy

The head of CSU and ruler in Bavaria, Horst Seehofer said a few days ago, "I have requested today that we take precautions for the 14 days of the October Fest, so that Munich doesn't remain the main hub that it currently is."

His interior minister added that bypassing Munich was necessary, because, "especially refugees from Muslim countries aren't used to encounter severely drunk people in public."

[Martinus]

@Norgy

The head of CSU and ruler in Bavaria, Horst Seehofer said a few days ago, "I have requested today that we take precautions for the 14 days of the October Fest, so that Munich doesn't remain the main hub that it currently is."

His interior minister added that bypassing Munich was necessary, because, "especially refugees from Muslim countries aren't used to encounter severely drunk people in public."

"Please stop dying for two weeks so we may stuff our faces with pig offal".

[garbon]

@Norgy

The head of CSU and ruler in Bavaria, Horst Seehofer said a few days ago, "I have requested today that we take precautions for the 14 days of the October Fest, so that Munich doesn't remain the main hub that it currently is."

His interior minister added that bypassing Munich was necessary, because, "especially refugees from Muslim countries aren't used to encounter severely drunk people in public."

"Please stop dying for two weeks so we may stuff our faces with pig offal".

Sad but true.

[Duque de Bragança]

@Norgy

The head of CSU and ruler in Bavaria, Horst Seehofer said a few days ago, "I have requested today that we take precautions for the 14 days of the October Fest, so that Munich doesn't remain the main hub that it currently is."

His interior minister added that bypassing Munich was necessary, because, "especially refugees from Muslim countries aren't used to encounter severely drunk people in public."

"Please stop dying for two weeks so we may stuff our faces with pig offal".

It's not the only custom they're not used to, but don't worry local authorities in Bavaria have been taking the right steps well in advance:

A school in Bavaria has sent a letter home to parents warning them not to let their daughters wear revealing blouses or short skirts, because emergency accommodation for refugees has been set up next to the gym.

A week ago emergency accommodation for 200 Syrian refugees was erected right next to the gym of Wilhelm-Diess-Gymnasium in Pocking, Bavaria, Die Welt reports.

The gym has been closed as a result, and PE lessons have been relocated to a nearby primary school, but the school is still worried about the refugees interacting with students.

So worried in fact that the headteacher recently sent out a letter to parents to give reassurance about extra security measures.

"For the refugees, access to the school gardens and buildings is strictly forbidden. The same goes for the school grounds during the day. The number of teachers on duty during breaks has been increased," read the letter from headteacher Martin Thalhammer.

The letter goes on to give students instructions on how to deal with the situation:

"The Syrian citizens are mainly Muslims and speak Arabic. The refugees are marked by their own culture. Because our school is directly next to where they are staying, modest clothing should be adhered to, in order to avoid discrepancies. Revealing tops or blouses, short shorts or miniskirts could lead to misunderstandings."

The letter has not been met favourably by some parents, but a local politician, who did not want to be named, told Die Welt the move was "absolutely necessary".

"When Muslim teenage boys go to open air swimming pools, they are overwhelmed when they see girls in bikinis," he said.

"These boys, who come from a culture where for women it is frowned upon to show naked skin, follow girls and bother them without realizing. Obviously this is concerning for us," he continued.

The move by the school has caused a lot of discussion, and Thalhammer has received queries from all over the media, reports the Passauer Neue Presse.

"There have never been uniform rules at this school and there never will be." He said.

"It is my duty to look after the children. Therefore I wanted to inform everyone about what is going on at school and what the gym is being used for."

"It was my responsibility to remind everyone that two cultures are coming together here," he continued.

http://www.thelocal.de/20150626/refugee-school-calls-for-uniform-modesty

http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article143128131/Miniroecke-koennten-zu-Missverstaendnissen-fuehren.html

[Martinus]

What is your point in this story, Duque? That in Bavaria even leftists are retarded? 

[Tamas]

What is your point in this story, Duque? That in Bavaria even leftists are retarded? 

1. it is an idiotic letter, yes

2. You have a teenage daughter who is going to spend a whole day in an area choke full of men straight out of Syria, Afghanistan, and other muslim countries. She wants to head out in a miniskirt.
A) You let her go B) you think "it is ugly prejudice but why take the 1% risk of some bad experience happening to her?" and tell her to dress more modest for the time being
?

[mongers]

This handling of this crisis has helped change my view of the Hungarian state; now not sure it was sensible to allowed them into the EU and NATO.

[Martinus]

What is your point in this story, Duque? That in Bavaria even leftists are retarded? 

1. it is an idiotic letter, yes

2. You have a teenage daughter who is going to spend a whole day in an area choke full of men straight out of Syria, Afghanistan, and other muslim countries. She wants to head out in a miniskirt.
A) You let her go B) you think "it is ugly prejudice but why take the 1% risk of some bad experience happening to her?" and tell her to dress more modest for the time being
?

Again, I am not sure what the point of this story is - it does not provide any independent reporting that attempts to assess the situation - it simply quotes some idiotic letter from the school principal and follows up on it with an anonymous opinion of a "local politician". There is absolutely no credibility to whatever is being reported, beyond the fact that a letter like this was sent.

So I repeat my question - what's the story and what (if anything) should we be discussing after reading this?

[Duque de Bragança]

What is your point in this story, Duque? That in Bavaria even leftists are retarded? 

Leftists in Bavaria? No such a thing! CSU Land! Or so the leftists in the rest of Germany say. One-party state, somewhat democratic, etc..

My point? The double standard between people complaining with some merit about "selfish" steps taken to ensure the Oktober fest goes as planned, and the coward blind eye turned to PC compromises of principles.

[Martinus]

I see both moves as idiotic - but it seems to me that both come from the same source, i.e. stupid Bavarian authorities (which, according to you, are not even leftist). So, once again, not sure what the point is. 

Maybe it's language barrier, but your posts seem increasingly incoherent.

[Duque de Bragança]

You're the one claiming the principal who wrote the letter is a leftist, not me. As for coherence, your famous analogies speak in your behalf.

[Syt]

Meanwhile, Orbán wants to build another border fence along the Romanian border - Romania being part of the EU but not of Schengen.

[mongers]

Meanwhile, Orbán wants to build another border fence along the Romanian border - Romania being part of the EU but not of Schengen.

Maybe if we don't say anything they're continue to build fences all around Hungary. And then only the bright ones will find a way to get out of their own country?