EU Immigration Crisis Megathread

[crazy canuck]

BTW, while I think the quota system within the EU is the only sensible solution on the table at the moment, I have the suspicion that it will indirectly recreate the Palestinian refugee camps around Israel in many ways: de facto ghettos of poverty and seclusion.

Immigrants function better in smaller communities and get integrated better.

I don't think that is accurate.  Cities are where jobs and educational opportunities are more plentiful.

Yes and no.
If you're already educated, you might find a job.
Or you end up on welfare handouts and live with your own people, and resent society. Sort of like an immigrant Seedy.

And if someone is young and not yet educated sending them off to a rural setting where there are no educational opportunities will help ensure they remain uneducated.

[Norgy]

BTW, while I think the quota system within the EU is the only sensible solution on the table at the moment, I have the suspicion that it will indirectly recreate the Palestinian refugee camps around Israel in many ways: de facto ghettos of poverty and seclusion.

Immigrants function better in smaller communities and get integrated better.

I don't think that is accurate.  Cities are where jobs and educational opportunities are more plentiful. 

Cities have jobs and education if you speak the language of the city.

And in order to learn to speak the language education is required.

Yes, and you can learn the language better with fewer people around. Classes are everywhere.
For Norway's part, we are talking about just 8 000 Syrian refugees. Most of whom probably already have an education.

[Valmy]

Reminds me of the Monty Python sketch, what you think of as a shithole is likely very welcome for these desperate people.

And a few decades later their kids will be rioting at their hopeless existence in urban ghettos. Meanwhile in the European countryside entire villages are being sold.

[Norgy]

BTW, while I think the quota system within the EU is the only sensible solution on the table at the moment, I have the suspicion that it will indirectly recreate the Palestinian refugee camps around Israel in many ways: de facto ghettos of poverty and seclusion.

Immigrants function better in smaller communities and get integrated better.

I don't think that is accurate.  Cities are where jobs and educational opportunities are more plentiful.

Yes and no.
If you're already educated, you might find a job.
Or you end up on welfare handouts and live with your own people, and resent society. Sort of like an immigrant Seedy.

And if someone is young and not yet educated sending them off to a rural setting where there are no educational opportunities will help ensure they remain uneducated.

There is no such thing as a lack of oppurtunity to go to school even in rural Norway. We are: A socialist paradise.

[The Brain]

Sweden only has schools in the major cities. Why waste education on a peasant?

[Norgy]

Reminds me of the Monty Python sketch, what you think of as a shithole is likely very welcome for these desperate people.

And a few decades later their kids will be rioting at their hopeless existence in urban ghettos. Meanwhile in the European countryside entire villages are being sold.

This is true.
If you continue to stuff cities full of people with no prospects, and continue the policies of ghettoisation around the large metropolitan areas, you will reap what you sow.

[Norgy]

Sweden only has schools in the major cities. Why waste education on a peasant?

Was it during the 70s that Sweden abandoned all support for keeping people in the countryside? When I drive through Värmland or Jämtland, it's like driving through wilderness except for the roads.

In Norway, we still spend a lot of tax payers' money on keeping the rural areas in the north alive.

When Afghan refugees first turned up here in the early 80s, I asked my father why we didn't send them to the Dovre mountains and let them milk the sheep. I'd seen photos and newsreels from Afghanistan and figured these people liked mountains and sheep.

[Grey Fox]

I think it is time for the west, since half of syria is apprently trying to get in, to let Iran deal mop the floor with the Rebels & reinstate Assad control over Syria properly.

[Norgy]

Remember when Iran was a friendly country? Thanks, Reagan.

[Josquius]

Yesterday a Dutch girl was endlessly ranting about how all the foreigners want to go to Holland.
I guess it's a unifying characteristic of right wingers the world over.

They stormed the first train they could find, only leaving it when they were told it was going toward southern Hungary.

Comedy gold.
Don't you have signs on your trains and platforms?

Yes. Don't think they are more versed in Hungarian geography than you are, though.

I thought they were just after international trains?

[The Brain]

Sweden only has schools in the major cities. Why waste education on a peasant?

Was it during the 70s that Sweden abandoned all support for keeping people in the countryside? When I drive through Värmland or Jämtland, it's like driving through wilderness except for the roads.

In Norway, we still spend a lot of tax payers' money on keeping the rural areas in the north alive.

When Afghan refugees first turned up here in the early 80s, I asked my father why we didn't send them to the Dovre mountains and let them milk the sheep. I'd seen photos and newsreels from Afghanistan and figured these people liked mountains and sheep.

People can live where they want as far as I'm concerned. I don't tell them how to live their lives.

[Eddie Teach]

Remember when Iran was a friendly country? Thanks, Reagan.

Oh yeah, super-friendly, holding Americans hostages for over a year.

[crazy canuck]

Remember when Iran was a friendly country? Thanks, Reagan.

Oh yeah, super-friendly, holding Americans hostages for over a year.

Yeah, he is definitely blaming the wrong President. 

[The Brain]

"President Reagan" was actually an actor.

[PJL]

"President Reagan" was actually an actor.

An extremely good one at that too. He led millions to believe he could actually be president too, and be good at it.