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[Faeelin]

Wait, you can be fined for mean words in Poland?

No wonder your neighbors gang bang you ever few years.

[Neil]

Wait, you can be fined for mean words in Poland?

No wonder your neighbors gang bang you ever few years.

I look forward to Martinus having to pay thousands to the Catholic Church.

[Faeelin]

I look forward to Martinus having to pay thousands to the Catholic Church.

The Pope? How many divisions does he have?

[BuddhaRhubarb]

why is a born again type doing a Tarot reading? isn't that witchcraft or something?

[citizen k]

why is a born again type doing a Tarot reading? isn't that witchcraft or something?

I'm sorry, just some people don't fit into categories very easily. 

[viper37]

This is not some kind of gay support forum.  Official forum policy is anti-faggot, and has been for some years now.

someone should have told Marty years ago...

[Sheilbh]

isn't that witchcraft or something?

Yes.  There's something approaching evil in tarot and oujis and things like that

[The Brain]

It's superstition.

[merithyn]

As opposed to religion? 

[garbon]

As opposed to religion? 

Which is divine truth.

[MadImmortalMan]

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/08/17/obama_makes_explicit_his_objec.html

Obama Makes Explicit His Objection to DOMA

By Scott Wilson
President Obama made clear Monday that he favors the repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act, and intends to ask Congress to repeal the 13-year-old law that denies benefits to domestic partners of federal employees and allows states to reject same-sex marriages performed in other states.

Obama has long opposed the law, which he has called discriminatory. But his Justice Department has angered the gay community, which favored Obama by a wide margin in last year's election, by defending the law in court. The administration has said it is standard practice for the Justice Department to do so, even for laws that it does not agree with.

The Justice Department did so again Monday in its response in Smelt v. United States, a case before a U.S. District Court in California. But, for the first time, the filing itself made clear that the administration "does not support DOMA as a matter of policy, believes that it is discriminatory, and supports its repeal."

Obama and his senior advisers have made that statement before, but never in a court brief. In addition, Obama issued a statement noting that, although his administration is again defending DOMA in court, "this brief makes clear...that my administration believes the act is discriminatory and should be repealed by Congress."

"While we work with Congress to repeal DOMA, my administration will continue to examine and implement measures that will help extend rights and benefits to LGBT couples under existing law," Obama said in the statement.

Let's see if it happens.

[DontSayBanana]

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/08/17/obama_makes_explicit_his_objec.html

[snip]

Let's see if it happens.

That would be an interesting development.

For those that say there's no "Jim Crow" effect in marriage legislation, in 1996, the year DOMA was passed, Alaska was the only state to ban gay marriage- it has since jumped to 29 states with legislation explicitly barring gay marriage (6 states have chosen to permit gay marriage, and it remains an open issue with 4 other states besides CA); many of those chose to follow federal "guidance" and use DOMA as a crutch to show that their bans pass the federal test.

[MadImmortalMan]

That would be an interesting development.

For those that say there's no "Jim Crow" effect in marriage legislation, in 1996, the year DOMA was passed, Alaska was the only state to ban gay marriage- it has since jumped to 29 states with legislation explicitly barring gay marriage (6 states have chosen to permit gay marriage, and it remains an open issue with 4 other states besides CA); many of those chose to follow federal "guidance" and use DOMA as a crutch to show that their bans pass the federal test.

You could just as easily say that it was the OMG MARRAIGE IS TEH UNDER THREAT response from the fundies toward the fact that it had been becoming far more mainstream and accepted during that same time frame. Correlation, causation, etc.

[BuddhaRhubarb]

why is a born again type doing a Tarot reading? isn't that witchcraft or something?

I'm sorry, just some people don't fit into categories very easily. 

yeah look who you are telling that to.

[DontSayBanana]

You could just as easily say that it was the OMG MARRAIGE IS TEH UNDER THREAT response from the fundies toward the fact that it had been becoming far more mainstream and accepted during that same time frame. Correlation, causation, etc.

I guess the "knee-jerk response" correlation could be read for 13-16 of the banning states; particularly in the case of the 13 states that banned gay marriage the year after MA legalized it.

http://pewforum.org/docs/?DocID=421