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Valmy

#150
July 17, 2009, 08:04:36 AM
Quote from: citizen k on July 17, 2009, 08:03:26 AM
Aren't patriotic biker groups already escorting the funerals and shielding the mourners/counterdemonstrating?

That would not surprise me. :)
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Sheilbh

#151
July 17, 2009, 08:21:21 AM
Quote from: citizen k on July 17, 2009, 08:03:26 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 17, 2009, 07:42:02 AM
I am not really sure how I feel about this.  Why are such ordinances necessary?  Surely they can use current laws to keep these freaks from tresspasing on private property (or military property if these funerals are being held in a military cemetary of some sort) without having to pass these questionable ordinances.

After all nothing is stopping people from counter-demonstrating the freaks like we do the KKK and Nazis and so forth.

Aren't patriotic biker groups already escorting the funerals and shielding the mourners/counterdemonstrating?
Yeah.  Hell's Angels are offering to escort any funeral :lol:

I think it's particularly smart because it probably causes difficulties for the fundies.  Who do they protest against then?  Fags or 'Hell's Angels'?
Let's bomb Russia!

Martinus

#152
July 17, 2009, 08:37:42 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on July 17, 2009, 08:21:21 AM
Who do they protest against then?  Fags or 'Hell's Angels'?

[Bruno]Ist zer a difference?[/Bruno]

viper37

#153
August 06, 2009, 07:02:06 PM
Even more opportunities for religious fundies in airport now. 
Marty & Grallon are gonna be happy:  Homosexuality can not be cured.

Article
Highlights:

  • Ex-gay therapy does not work according to APA
  • Such therapies can lead to suicidal tendancies, depression, impotence, other types of disorders and even worst ;) : most participants quit early on.
  • At best, participants have learned to ignore their homosexual tendancies and abstain from sex, but not studies says how long it lasted.
I'm really, really surprised you can't change genetically induced behavior...  ;)


EDIT:
Some english text about it on a gay site:
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13587.html
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

derspiess

#154
August 06, 2009, 07:18:50 PM
Quote from: viper37 on August 06, 2009, 07:02:06 PM
Even more opportunities for religious fundies in airport now. 
Marty & Grallon are gonna be happy:  Homosexuality can not be cured.

Article
Highlights:

  • Ex-gay therapy does not work according to APA
  • Such therapies can lead to suicidal tendancies, depression, impotence, other types of disorders and even worst ;) : most participants quit early on.
  • At best, participants have learned to ignore their homosexual tendancies and abstain from sex, but not studies says how long it lasted.
I'm really, really surprised you can't change genetically induced behavior...  ;)


EDIT:
Some english text about it on a gay site:
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13587.html

Interesting take on it.  IMO, Marty & Grallon would be pissed that the APA is no longer insisting that psychiatrists push gay head-cases to embrace their homosexuality, and is being flexible enough to allow that some people may genuinely want to curtail gay feelings/impulses because it impedes on things like church, family, etc. that are more important to them.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Neil

#155
August 06, 2009, 07:23:17 PM
Quote from: viper37 on August 06, 2009, 07:02:06 PM
Such therapies can lead to suicidal tendancies, depression, impotence, other types of disorders and even worst ;) :
What's the problem?
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

garbon

#156
August 06, 2009, 08:04:50 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 06, 2009, 07:18:50 PM
IMO, Marty & Grallon would be pissed that the APA is no longer insisting that psychiatrists push gay head-cases to embrace their homosexuality, and is being flexible enough to allow that some people may genuinely want to curtail gay feelings/impulses because it impedes on things like church, family, etc. that are more important to them.
I, on the other hand, think that's fine. People should be able to choose what makes them happy. :)

@Viper - Yeah I made a thread on this.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Valmy

#157
August 06, 2009, 09:43:28 PM Last Edit: August 06, 2009, 09:45:42 PM by Valmy
Quote from: derspiess on August 06, 2009, 07:18:50 PM
and is being flexible enough to allow that some people may genuinely want to curtail gay feelings/impulses because it impedes on things like church, family, etc. that are more important to them.

I find it rather pathetic that being gay really impedes those things but then I don't go to a false church and don't have a shitty family unlike those people.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Eddie Teach

#158
August 06, 2009, 09:50:05 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 06, 2009, 09:43:28 PM
I find it rather pathetic that being gay really impedes those things but then I don't go to a false church and don't have a shitty family unlike those people.

Aren't you Catholic?
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Valmy

#159
August 06, 2009, 09:58:08 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 06, 2009, 09:50:05 PM
Aren't you Catholic?

No

But my grandmother is.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

derspiess

#160
August 06, 2009, 11:46:58 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 06, 2009, 09:43:28 PM
I find it rather pathetic that being gay really impedes those things but then I don't go to a false church and don't have a shitty family unlike those people.

Then that's your problem :D
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Valmy

#161
August 07, 2009, 07:39:13 AM
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Martinus

#162
August 07, 2009, 08:53:38 AM
Quote from: derspiess on August 06, 2009, 07:18:50 PM
Quote from: viper37 on August 06, 2009, 07:02:06 PM
Even more opportunities for religious fundies in airport now. 
Marty & Grallon are gonna be happy:  Homosexuality can not be cured.

Article
Highlights:

  • Ex-gay therapy does not work according to APA
  • Such therapies can lead to suicidal tendancies, depression, impotence, other types of disorders and even worst ;) : most participants quit early on.
  • At best, participants have learned to ignore their homosexual tendancies and abstain from sex, but not studies says how long it lasted.
I'm really, really surprised you can't change genetically induced behavior...  ;)


EDIT:
Some english text about it on a gay site:
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-13587.html

Interesting take on it.  IMO, Marty & Grallon would be pissed that the APA is no longer insisting that psychiatrists push gay head-cases to embrace their homosexuality, and is being flexible enough to allow that some people may genuinely want to curtail gay feelings/impulses because it impedes on things like church, family, etc. that are more important to them.

Not really - after all, it's the same as with heterosexuality - the churches and families expect people to curtail their impulses, e.g. when it comes to premarital sex, celibacy of priests and whatnot.

People make such choices all the time - everybody is free to fuck themselves up however they like.

What APA is saying here, however, is that you can't be misinforming people, e.g. by claiming that you can "cure gay".

And they are NOT saying you can curtail gay feelings, but that you can ignore them. That doesn't make them any different from any other sexual impulses.

So, sorry but your trolling failed.

Martinus

#163
August 07, 2009, 08:58:33 AM Last Edit: August 07, 2009, 09:02:39 AM by Martinus
And for the record, in case you misunderstood what they are saying, if you ignore your gay feelings, it doesn't mean you will create some sort of heterosexual feelings as a result. So yeah, if people want to live in a forced celibacy, despite being sexually non-apathetic, it's their choice. You can also live without ever taking a shower or reading a book.

Fortunately, while many gay and lesbian people who are raised in fundamentalist homes go through a period of denial and forced celibacy, most eventually abandon their retarded creeds and find happiness instead. Those who don't, go on to become catholic priests.

derspiess

#164
August 07, 2009, 10:04:43 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 07, 2009, 08:58:33 AM
And for the record, in case you misunderstood what they are saying, if you ignore your gay feelings, it doesn't mean you will create some sort of heterosexual feelings as a result. So yeah, if people want to live in a forced celibacy, despite being sexually non-apathetic, it's their choice. You can also live without ever taking a shower or reading a book.

I like how you pretend it doesn't bother you & then you equate it with not bathing or being able to read :D

QuoteFortunately, while many gay and lesbian people who are raised in fundamentalist homes go through a period of denial and forced celibacy, most eventually abandon their retarded creeds and find happiness instead. Those who don't, go on to become catholic priests.

Doesn't occur to you that some folks might actually value their family or church over sex, and therefore be happier not living a gay lifestyle in spite of what sexual inclinations they might have?
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall
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