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Started by Queequeg, March 22, 2015, 03:52:23 PM

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Monoriu

Quote from: Martinus on March 24, 2015, 01:32:46 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on March 24, 2015, 12:58:24 AM
Quote from: Martinus on March 24, 2015, 12:49:56 AM


I don't think most straight men would have a problem with patriarchal authoritarianism on a personal level. It's different if you are a single woman or gay.

For example, you still get jailed in Singapore for gay sex.

No idea about Singapore and gays.  What's the issue with single women in Singapore?  :unsure:

Google it.

I get a few hundred dating sites.  And a couple that says "Singapore women are picky". 

MadImmortalMan

You should clear your cache if your wife shares your computer.
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Monoriu

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 24, 2015, 01:57:48 AM
You should clear your cache if your wife shares your computer.

:lol:  She uses an iMac, and won't sink so low as to use my PC.

Usually  :ph34r:

Valmy

Quote from: Martinus on March 24, 2015, 12:49:56 AM

I don't think most straight men would have a problem with patriarchal authoritarianism on a personal level. It's different if you are a single woman or gay.

Wait wait Mono now speaks for most straight men? Ok you are taking this gender and sexuality stuff too far now.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

garbon

Quote from: Valmy on March 24, 2015, 08:02:07 AM
Quote from: Martinus on March 24, 2015, 12:49:56 AM

I don't think most straight men would have a problem with patriarchal authoritarianism on a personal level. It's different if you are a single woman or gay.

Wait wait Mono now speaks for most straight men? Ok you are taking this gender and sexuality stuff too far now.

Yes, that is clearly what Marti was saying. ^_^
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
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grumbler

Quote from: garbon on March 24, 2015, 08:03:19 AM
Quote from: Valmy on March 24, 2015, 08:02:07 AM
Quote from: Martinus on March 24, 2015, 12:49:56 AM

I don't think most straight men would have a problem with patriarchal authoritarianism on a personal level. It's different if you are a single woman or gay.

Wait wait Mono now speaks for most straight men? Ok you are taking this gender and sexuality stuff too far now.

Yes, that is clearly what Marti was saying. ^_^

:yes: Valmy missed it, but it is Marti that is claiming to speak for most straight men.
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Valmy

Quote from: garbon on March 24, 2015, 08:03:19 AM
Yes, that is clearly what Marti was saying. ^_^

I like how we usually agree on things :hug:
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Gups

Quote from: grumbler on March 23, 2015, 12:00:13 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 23, 2015, 11:32:04 AM
And how the fuck do you know what a typical Indian thinks?

Because I've talked to typical Indians, and to people who work with typical Indians on a daily basis.  I also read more about India than just reviews for the movie Gandhi.

My Dad was Indian, I've spent about 6 months of my live in India. I've even watched Gandhi twice.  Yet, I have no idea what a typical Indian is, let alone what he thinks. I'm hugely impressed that you have managed to develop such insight, just through talking to some ex-pats. 

garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

Quote from: Gups on March 24, 2015, 08:30:27 AM
Quote from: grumbler on March 23, 2015, 12:00:13 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 23, 2015, 11:32:04 AM
And how the fuck do you know what a typical Indian thinks?

Because I've talked to typical Indians, and to people who work with typical Indians on a daily basis.  I also read more about India than just reviews for the movie Gandhi.

My Dad was Indian, I've spent about 6 months of my live in India. I've even watched Gandhi twice.  Yet, I have no idea what a typical Indian is, let alone what he thinks. I'm hugely impressed that you have managed to develop such insight, just through talking to some ex-pats. 

Such self-hatred. :( :console:
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Valmy

Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

grumbler

Quote from: Gups on March 24, 2015, 08:30:27 AM
My Dad was Indian, I've spent about 6 months of my live in India. I've even watched Gandhi twice.  Yet, I have no idea what a typical Indian is, let alone what he thinks. I'm hugely impressed that you have managed to develop such insight, just through talking to some ex-pats.

I'm glad to impress you, and sorry you are having such a bad time of figuring out what "typical" means and what kinds of Indians might be considered typical.  Also, not every Indian is an "ex-pat;" that might be part of your trouble.

Of course, if you wish to discuss something substantive rather than simply sniping at semantics, we could do that, too.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

Gups

You've already said. A typical Indian is one who would prefer to live in China than in India. No semantics are required.

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grumbler

Quote from: Gups on March 24, 2015, 08:48:07 AM
You've already said. A typical Indian is one who would prefer to live in China than in India. No semantics are required.

Is that what you read?  Well, then, you think you have your answer, so no discussion necessary.  Thanks for sharing.  I think I can move on.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!