RIP Lee Kwan Yew

[crazy canuck]

So Grumbler has put his foot in his mouth and is now doing a victory lap which must look strange with one foot.

Typical

[grumbler]

So Grumbler has put his foot in his mouth and is now doing a victory lap which must look strange with one foot.

Typical

Typical cheap shot, as untrue as all cheap shots are. 

But thanks for supporting the cheap shot, in case anyone missed how morally bankrupt you generally sound. 

[crazy canuck]

So Grumbler has put his foot in his mouth and is now doing a victory lap which must look strange with one foot.

Typical

Typical cheap shot

How many typical Canucks did you speak to?

[Valmy]

HK news reports that droves of Singaporeans turn up to pay their final respects to Lee's coffin.  At the peak, people line up for 8 hours in the streets to get into the Parliament building, where the coffin is located.  The lines are so long that the authorities require mourners to keep moving when they finally get within sight of the coffin.

The king is dead.



Long live the king!

[Monoriu]

HK news reports that droves of Singaporeans turn up to pay their final respects to Lee's coffin.  At the peak, people line up for 8 hours in the streets to get into the Parliament building, where the coffin is located.  The lines are so long that the authorities require mourners to keep moving when they finally get within sight of the coffin.

The king is dead.



Long live the king!

Well, the new king has been diagnosed with prostate cancer.  So he likely won't be in power too long.  He also lacks the standing of his father.  In the last election "only" 60% of the people voted for his party - that's a record low in Singapore, where the voting itself is clean and genuine. 

[Valmy]

People survive cancer.

But just in case is his daughter ready?

[Monoriu]

People survive cancer.

But just in case is his daughter ready?

I am not sure, but my guess is not.  His children seem a bit young and they have not held important public offices.  In any case, they'll also want to avoid being accused of maintaining a North Korean style dynasty. 

[Admiral Yi]

How does it work in Singapore?  The Party nominates one guy, then they have a yes/no referendum?

[Monoriu]

How does it work in Singapore?  The Party nominates one guy, then they have a yes/no referendum?

It is a British style parliamentary system.  They elect MPs in various districts, and the majority party form a government.  In reality the system heavily favours the incumbent party, and there are many obstacles for the opposition.  Opposition leaders are frequently sued for libel, and the government "penalises" the districts that voted for opposition parties in the past (no renovation for those public housing estates, for example).  But the voting itself is not rigged. 

[Razgovory]

So Grumbler has put his foot in his mouth and is now doing a victory lap which must look strange with one foot.

Typical

Typical cheap shot

How many typical Canucks did you speak to?

He was dying for you to respond to me.  He could rebut me otherwise.   I can't believe he still goes through this charade.

[Martinus]

Valmy missed it, but it is Marti that is claiming to speak for most straight men.

Well, he does think his cleaning lady is kinda hot. 

I do find it curious that Martinus evidently would be perfectly comfortable living under an autocratic regime as long as they allow him to have sex with other men.

It so just happens that most (all?) autocratic regimes actually significantly limit freedoms of gay people (compared to straight people), even if they do not ban gay sex outright. We are the canary in the coalmine of oppression.

Show me an autocratic country that has full freedoms for gay people and I will tell you whether I would like to live there.

[Eddie Teach]

Show me an autocratic country that has full freedoms for gay people and I will tell you whether I would like to live there.

That's the point, they don't have *full freedoms* for anyone. By definition. So why would anybody(besides the ruler and perhaps a small oligarchic class that benefits economically) wish to live there?

[Monoriu]

Show me an autocratic country that has full freedoms for gay people and I will tell you whether I would like to live there.

That's the point, they don't have *full freedoms* for anyone. By definition. So why would anybody(besides the ruler and perhaps a small oligarchic class that benefits economically) wish to live there?

Different people have different preferences.  I don't want to live in North Korea, but I am perfectly ok with Singapore or Mainland China, even though there is no "full freedom" in these places.  I'd rather have a job in China than to be unemployed in Canada, that's why. 

[Monoriu]

The funeral service is today.  Singaporeans are still lining up for 8-10 hours to see his coffin. 

[Admiral Yi]

Pageantry would not appear to be a Singaporean strong suit.