Another Russian Rewrite of History

[Alcibiades]

Hitler also offered Poland a secret alliance against the Soviet Union when he made his demands

Whoooooooaaa, never heard of this before!

[DGuller]

I bet it's nice to be a historian in Russia.  Job security and room for innovation/creativity must be the best of any fields.

[Faeelin]

Hitler also offered Poland a secret alliance against the Soviet Union when he made his demands

Whoooooooaaa, never heard of this before!

I dunno if Hitler did it, but I think Goering talked about this at one point when visiting Poland.

[Martinus]

Yeah, that actually is pretty common knowledge here. I guess Poland believed itself secure in the alliance with the British and the French.

LOL: Strategy fail?

[grumbler]

The Polish government was dominated by the military. For this reason they overestimated themselves and thought they were "one of the big boys" and could stand up against Germany and win. They did allow for war in some respects, but it is hardly their fault for wanting to hold on to their lands.

Remember that they were anticipating a re-run of WW1, and were prepared to fight it successfully (given eventually support from France and Britain).  Poland's decision to fight was not as insane as hindsight would have us believe.

[grumbler]

There was also a territorial dispute with Czechoslovakia, ranging back to 1918, concerning the ownership of the land Poland captured.

And the Czechs were not as nice a set of neighbors as their wartime and postwar propoganda would have us all believe.  "Democratic" Czechoslovakia was very much dominated by the Chech minority.  That is why Slovakia broke away as soon as it could, and the Sudetan Germans had sympathy from many in Europe.

[Razgovory]

I bet it's nice to be a historian in Russia.  Job security and room for innovation/creativity must be the best of any fields.

Except when it's the time for the next round of revisions and you are denounced and sent to the gulag.

[grumbler]

Except when it's the time for the next round of revisions and you are denounced and sent to the gulag.

The key is to be the first to denounce.

[Ancient Demon]

Remember that they were anticipating a re-run of WW1, and were prepared to fight it successfully (given eventually support from France and Britain).  Poland's decision to fight was not as insane as hindsight would have us believe.

Indeed. Also, Poland was not a weak country like many people believe. Surely they were defeated swiftly when the war broke out, but no moreso than France who was widely believed to have the most powerful army in the world at that time.

[Neil]

Remember that they were anticipating a re-run of WW1, and were prepared to fight it successfully (given eventually support from France and Britain).  Poland's decision to fight was not as insane as hindsight would have us believe.

Indeed. Also, Poland was not a weak country like many people believe. Surely they were defeated swiftly when the war broke out, but no moreso than France who was widely believed to have the most powerful army in the world at that time.

In retrospect, you have to wonder why.  I mean, France has no military achievements since Napoleon died.

[jimmy olsen]

Remember that they were anticipating a re-run of WW1, and were prepared to fight it successfully (given eventually support from France and Britain).  Poland's decision to fight was not as insane as hindsight would have us believe.

Indeed. Also, Poland was not a weak country like many people believe. Surely they were defeated swiftly when the war broke out, but no moreso than France who was widely believed to have the most powerful army in the world at that time.

In retrospect, you have to wonder why.  I mean, France has no military achievements since Napoleon died.

They fought well in WWI.

[Alatriste]

Remember that they were anticipating a re-run of WW1, and were prepared to fight it successfully (given eventually support from France and Britain).  Poland's decision to fight was not as insane as hindsight would have us believe.

Indeed. Also, Poland was not a weak country like many people believe. Surely they were defeated swiftly when the war broke out, but no moreso than France who was widely believed to have the most powerful army in the world at that time.

In retrospect, you have to wonder why.  I mean, France has no military achievements since Napoleon died.

Crimea? Magenta? Solferino? Le Marne? Verdun?

Now, if you say France's performance on the battlefield was always extreme, either superb or abysmal, I will have to agree...

[Warspite]

They were also the first to march into Paris in August 1945. That was some achievement.

[Neil]

Remember that they were anticipating a re-run of WW1, and were prepared to fight it successfully (given eventually support from France and Britain).  Poland's decision to fight was not as insane as hindsight would have us believe.

Indeed. Also, Poland was not a weak country like many people believe. Surely they were defeated swiftly when the war broke out, but no moreso than France who was widely believed to have the most powerful army in the world at that time.

In retrospect, you have to wonder why.  I mean, France has no military achievements since Napoleon died.

They fought well in WWI.

Not at all.  WWI was entirely a British victory.

[PDH]

Not at all.  WWI was entirely a British victory.

Dreadnoughts, ftw.