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[Valmy]

Overall, this is probably a good result.  I think there was a lot of delusion on the part of many outsiders that there was a majority pro-peace faction in Israel.  This election clears the air. 

The peace parties on both sides are pretty much dead for awhile now but they have to pretend to keep us happy.

[alfred russel]

If the US faced the same level of continuous attacks and the same security issues as Israel, I suspect we wouldn't be as much like us either.

That is how you are welcomed into the Middle Eastern family of nations.

Anyway Bibi promises more settlements, annexations, and no Palestinian State and pulls it out.  Well isn't that just awesome?

There are now something like 400,000 settlers in the west bank. In east jerusalem, the muslim population is divided on whether it wants to be a part of a palestinian state.

To a certain extent what Bibi promises is just reality. The point where you could peacefully remove the settlers is well in the past. There already is a de facto Palestinian state with significant international recognition, but Israel can't recognize it with all those settlers in the west bank, and it doesn't seem likely to cede a bunch of territory. So here we are.

[Valmy]

Here we are indeed.

[garbon]

Well there you are.

[Ed Anger]

The Axis of Evil, various statements made by prominent US politicians, 47 Republicans just sent Iran a letter encouraging Iran telling them that they would do their best to start a war.

Trolling is all fun and games until it sucks a poor innocent like Jacob in.

Danes aren't innocent. Just evil.

[Valmy]

Well there you are.

Where are you?

[garbon]

Well there you are.

Where are you?

Europe.

[derspiess]

Europe.

Try not to become an anti-semite, plz.

[garbon]

Europe.

Try not to become an anti-semite, plz.

Seems unlikely.

edit: Total tangent but when I was watching the film with Nazi soldiers, I caught a German word or two because I knew the meaning of the derived Yiddish word.

[Jacob]

The Axis of Evil, various statements made by prominent US politicians, 47 Republicans just sent Iran a letter encouraging Iran telling them that they would do their best to start a war.

Trolling is all fun and games until it sucks a poor innocent like Jacob in.

Oh the irony.

[Neil]

The Axis of Evil, various statements made by prominent US politicians, 47 Republicans just sent Iran a letter encouraging Iran telling them that they would do their best to start a war.

Trolling is all fun and games until it sucks a poor innocent like Jacob in.

When Mitt Romney is banging the war drums during his presidential campaign, I don't think it's unreasonable for the Iranians to feel that the US might attack them.  And now you have a significant portion of the US Senate repudiating diplomacy, and it's not really that unreasonable for the Iranians to seek a deterrent.

That you see any attempt to look at things from the Iranian point of view as 'trolling' says more about you than it does me.

[Caliga]

Iran isn't the enemy.  We need to stop thinking that.

[Admiral Yi]

When Mitt Romney is banging the war drums during his presidential campaign, I don't think it's unreasonable for the Iranians to feel that the US might attack them.  And now you have a significant portion of the US Senate repudiating diplomacy, and it's not really that unreasonable for the Iranians to seek a deterrent.

That you see any attempt to look at things from the Iranian point of view as 'trolling' says more about you than it does me.

I don't think it's completely unreasonable either.  But suggesting that an attack on nuclear facilities to prevent Iran's acquisition of nuclear weapons is a good rationale for pursuing nuclear weapons is at best retarded.

[Neil]

Iran isn't the enemy.  We need to stop thinking that.

But then again, neither is Israel.  They are both foreign countries with competing foreign policy objectives, neither of which are especially beneficial to the West.

[Caliga]

Israel is our only true friend in the Middle East and as such we need to stand by them at all costs.  We can't trust any other country in that (strategically critical) region.