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The Minsky Moment

#180
March 17, 2015, 03:20:47 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on March 17, 2015, 11:51:28 AM
I'm not sure about those allegations K, but Bibi has been bitching about Us donors. Which does leave you wondering: Sheldon Adelson? :blink:

The man is Prime Minister of Israel.  You expect chutzpah at epic levels and bibi delivers.
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The Larch

#181
March 17, 2015, 04:29:37 PM
Did Chuck Norris' endorsement of Netanyahu help turn things around?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MpY5HIlipY

Sheilbh

#182
March 17, 2015, 05:06:03 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 17, 2015, 03:19:22 PM
Well that's a bummer. Ah well I know never to expect good news from that part of the world.
To be honest it's a pretty decent in my opinion.

Yachad didn't get in. Labor is back. Meretz beat Lieberman (who almost fell out of the Knesset. To top it all, though Bibi won (which sort of remains to be seen) it looks like he mostly did it by taking votes off Bennett.
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alfred russel

#183
March 17, 2015, 05:10:17 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 13, 2015, 07:26:57 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on March 13, 2015, 07:18:57 PM
And just days after I'd said how much Lieberman had moderated he said disloyal Israeli Arabs should be beheaded :bleeding:

The Israelis are going native on us.  They are so much like the other Middle Easterners now.  That is why I have a hard time considering them trusted allies. At least that is my interpretation.

No way. Look at what the middle east is. Syria is completely psycho, Saudi Arabia doesn't let women drive, I'm not sure what Lebanon is. Jordan and some of the gulf states may be okayish, but then you have Yemn and Oman. And of course Iraq.

The country is much more like us than them.
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The Minsky Moment

#184
March 17, 2015, 05:20:34 PM
If the US faced the same level of continuous attacks and the same security issues as Israel, I suspect we wouldn't be as much like us either.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Berkut

#185
March 17, 2015, 06:04:44 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 17, 2015, 05:20:34 PM
If the US faced the same level of continuous attacks and the same security issues as Israel, I suspect we wouldn't be as much like us either.

If our response to the attacks we have had is any indicator, we would be a fucking police state that would make 1944 Germany look idyllic.
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derspiess

#186
March 17, 2015, 06:56:05 PM
Looks like he won.  My conservative friends on Facebook are celebrating.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Neil

#187
March 17, 2015, 08:32:02 PM
Honestly, the only rational move for Iran is to get atomic weapons, with both the US and Israel looking politically unstable and constantly threatening to attack.  Iran finds itself in a similar position to China prior to the war with Japan.

It's a good thing that Obama is in his second term.  If the Republicans had much more time to stew, we might just see the Republicans pulling some 1930s Japanese bullshit, with the assassinations of non-hardliners and cabals working to undermine the government's foreign policy.
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Jacob

#188
March 17, 2015, 09:32:14 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 17, 2015, 08:32:02 PM
Honestly, the only rational move for Iran is to get atomic weapons, with both the US and Israel looking politically unstable and constantly threatening to attack.  Iran finds itself in a similar position to China prior to the war with Japan.

Yeah. I'm not a fan of the Iranian government, nor do I think the world is going to be better off if Iran has the bomb. But were I in charge of looking after Iran's national interest (and unable to change the country by fiat) then becoming a nuclear state seems like a pretty rational step.

Valmy

#189
March 17, 2015, 09:39:37 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 17, 2015, 05:20:34 PM
If the US faced the same level of continuous attacks and the same security issues as Israel, I suspect we wouldn't be as much like us either.

That is how you are welcomed into the Middle Eastern family of nations.

Anyway Bibi promises more settlements, annexations, and no Palestinian State and pulls it out.  Well isn't that just awesome?
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KRonn

#190
March 18, 2015, 07:42:35 AM
Wow, I'm surprised that Bibi won so big, which is a big rebuttal to the polls which showed it very close or with his opponent in the lead, including the exit polls from what I was seeing on the news last night.

Admiral Yi

#191
March 18, 2015, 07:43:15 AM
The US constantly threatening to attack Iran?  What in the world are you talking about Neil?

Neil

#192
March 18, 2015, 08:07:57 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 18, 2015, 07:43:15 AM
The US constantly threatening to attack Iran?  What in the world are you talking about Neil?
The Axis of Evil, various statements made by prominent US politicians, 47 Republicans just sent Iran a letter encouraging Iran telling them that they would do their best to start a war.
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grumbler

#193
March 18, 2015, 08:33:40 AM
I think that these election results are a pretty clear refutation of the idea that Israel and the US share a lot of interests in the Middle East.  Israel is, and will remain for the foreseeable future, a democratic and liberal state, but its expansionist ambitions are inconsistent with the US ambition to see peace in the region. 

Overall, this is probably a good result.  I think there was a lot of delusion on the part of many outsiders that there was a majority pro-peace faction in Israel.  This election clears the air. 
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

Admiral Yi

#194
March 18, 2015, 08:34:25 AM
Quote from: Neil on March 18, 2015, 08:07:57 AM
The Axis of Evil, various statements made by prominent US politicians, 47 Republicans just sent Iran a letter encouraging Iran telling them that they would do their best to start a war.

Trolling is all fun and games until it sucks a poor innocent like Jacob in.
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