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Started by Syt, June 17, 2009, 01:56:48 PM

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Syt

June 17, 2009, 01:56:48 PM
Discovery is re-running Channel Five's "Building the Ultimate ..." series. Today: tanks. With "experts" like Tom Clancy or Bruce Dickinson or a veteran Panther commander of the Waffen SS.

01. Leopard 2A6 (Germany)


02. M1 Abrams (US)


03. T-34 (Russia)


04. Merkava (Israel)


05. Centurion (UK)


06. Stridsvagn 103 (Sweden)


07. T-72 (Russia)


08. PzKpfW V Panther (Germany)


09. M551 Sheridan (US)


10. M4 Sherman (US)


Discuss. :nerd:
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derspiess

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June 17, 2009, 02:03:26 PM
Quote from: Syt on June 17, 2009, 01:56:48 PM
09. M551 Sheridan (US)

:huh:  The most the M551 has ever done is serve as a fake BMP for the OPFOR in Army exercises.

Btw is this your list or theirs?
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Syt

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June 17, 2009, 02:05:04 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 17, 2009, 02:03:26 PM
Quote from: Syt on June 17, 2009, 01:56:48 PM
09. M551 Sheridan (US)

:huh:  The most the M551 has ever done is serve as a fake BMP for the OPFOR in Army exercises.

Btw is this your list or theirs?

Theirs. I'm not hardcore enough to make such lists.  :blush:
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Syt

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June 17, 2009, 02:06:04 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 17, 2009, 02:03:26 PM
Quote from: Syt on June 17, 2009, 01:56:48 PM
09. M551 Sheridan (US)

:huh:  The most the M551 has ever done is serve as a fake BMP for the OPFOR in Army exercises.

They cited its capability to drop it into combat with airlifts.
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Neil

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June 17, 2009, 02:09:12 PM
Ultimate?  I find it hard to imagine a set of criteria that could result in that spread.
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Syt

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June 17, 2009, 02:11:26 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 17, 2009, 02:09:12 PM
Ultimate?  I find it hard to imagine a set of criteria that could result in that spread.

They usually weigh by effectiveness and innovativeness at the time. The submarine show, e.g., had German Type IX in #1 spot.
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Warspite

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June 17, 2009, 02:21:39 PM
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June 17, 2009, 02:26:18 PM
Quote from: Warspite on June 17, 2009, 02:21:39 PM
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Seconded. 

T-34 and Panther should probably be at the top, and why are the Sherman and the airborn tank from Battlefield:Vietnam on there?  Or the late model Soviet tanks?
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June 17, 2009, 02:26:47 PM
Leopard and Abrams over Challenger (not even listed)? :blink:
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The Brain

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June 17, 2009, 02:30:46 PM
The Swedish one may have been innovative but it wasn't exactly... er... ultimate.
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Berkut

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June 17, 2009, 02:32:47 PM
It wasn't even innovative. Low profile SP gun? Already been done.
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Ed Anger

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June 17, 2009, 02:32:51 PM
Discovery/military channel and their list shows:



I have grown to loathe them.
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The Brain

#12
June 17, 2009, 02:34:33 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 17, 2009, 02:32:47 PM
It wasn't even innovative. Low profile SP gun? Already been done.

But this was a tank, not a SP gun.

No, I don't get it either. But there it is.
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saskganesh

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June 17, 2009, 02:59:00 PM
at least they don't list the Tiger. that's a good thing.
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June 17, 2009, 03:02:22 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on June 17, 2009, 02:59:00 PM
at least they don't list the Tiger. that's a good thing.

It made the top 3 in the military paperweight category.

BTW don't tell Neil but HMS Dreadnought made the top 10.
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