Self-proclaimed atheist charged in slayings of North Carolina Muslim students

Started by garbon, February 11, 2015, 09:29:30 PM

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11B4V

#75
February 12, 2015, 12:05:07 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 12, 2015, 12:03:55 PM
Am I crazy here?  Does anybody think, when they hear of a shooting at a school or something in the US, think Muslims are involved?  Any articles that speculate that?  Am I really living a bubble?

No
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#76
February 12, 2015, 12:07:12 PM
Of course you are not.

Shootings in the US like this are terrifyingly routine. The fact that the victims happen to be Muslim is not really news except that people want to make it news. The culture of victimhood runs up against the culture of gun fetish worship. Yawn.
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garbon

#77
February 12, 2015, 12:08:08 PM
Quote from: Berkut on February 12, 2015, 12:07:12 PM
The fact that the victims happen to be Muslim is not really news except that people want to make it news.

If by "people" you are referring to media outlets, then yes.
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#78
February 12, 2015, 12:11:24 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 12, 2015, 12:08:08 PM
Quote from: Berkut on February 12, 2015, 12:07:12 PM
The fact that the victims happen to be Muslim is not really news except that people want to make it news.

If by "people" you are referring to media outlets, then yes.

I believe he means people who aren't him.
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garbon

#79
February 12, 2015, 12:12:56 PM
That said, V, it was probably an overreach on my part. -_- Looking at some of the high profile shootings, the only one I could quickly find was that in the case of the Colorado shooting, there were questions as the day of on whether or not the shooter was linked with Islam.

What I did find though is something else, which is that every time there is a whiff of something being suspected as perpetrated by a Muslim, it is suddenly an act of terror.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/claire-mccaskill-terrorism-boston-marathon-sandy-hook-90213.html
QuoteClaire McCaskill: If Boston bombings are terrorism, why not Sandy Hook?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/14/AR2011011403054.html?sid=ST2011011106086
QuoteWas it tragedy in Tucson? Or terror?

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/apr/22/boston-marathon-terrorism-aurora-sandy-hook
QuoteWhy is Boston 'terrorism' but not Aurora, Sandy Hook, Tucson and Columbine?

The last is Greenwald but I still think he makes some good points.
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11B4V

#80
February 12, 2015, 12:17:47 PM Last Edit: February 12, 2015, 12:23:46 PM by 11B4V
QuoteWhy is Boston 'terrorism' but not Aurora, Sandy Hook, Tucson and Columbine?

Boston: Linked to a terrorist organization
Colubine: Couple emo kids going wacko. The benchmark to LE's change in tactics on active shooter.
Sandy Hook: White Boy's cheese slipped off his cracker.
Tucson: See #3
Aurora: See #3
2-5 not terrorism
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Siege

#81
February 12, 2015, 12:48:22 PM
If the killer had been a conservative dude, the media would have exploded attacking the Tea Party.
But since it was an atheist, no media coverage, or it would undermine the argument that atheist people better than religious and that religion is the source of violence.


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#82
February 12, 2015, 12:50:07 PM
Remember when they tried to sell the shooter of that Gilford woman from Arizona as a tea party member?
When they found out the dude was a liberal they tried to hide it, claim the dude was just crazy, not mentioning his politics.


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Caliga

#83
February 12, 2015, 01:30:18 PM
"Gilford woman" = Gabby Giffords? :hmm:
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#84
February 12, 2015, 03:38:36 PM
Quote from: Berkut on February 12, 2015, 10:20:10 AM
Self proclaimed atheists are the worst.

I am glad I was proclaimed by my pastor instead.

I thought divine lightning strikes were the only truly accepted standard.
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#85
February 12, 2015, 03:41:12 PM
Quote from: Siege on February 12, 2015, 12:48:22 PM
But since it was an atheist, no media coverage

Indeed the lack of media coverage explains why the story is being carried by every significant media outlet in the country and beyond.

:huh:
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Malthus

#86
February 12, 2015, 03:41:56 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on February 12, 2015, 03:41:12 PM
Quote from: Siege on February 12, 2015, 12:48:22 PM
But since it was an atheist, no media coverage

Indeed the lack of media coverage explains why the story is being carried by every significant media outlet in the country and beyond.

:huh:

The media is sneaky that way.
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Siege

#87
February 12, 2015, 03:48:48 PM
Oh shit, double judden attack!
I haven't had one of those in a while.


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Valmy

#88
February 12, 2015, 03:53:01 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 12, 2015, 12:12:56 PM
What I did find though is something else, which is that every time there is a whiff of something being suspected as perpetrated by a Muslim, it is suddenly an act of terror.

That is, indeed, a good point.  That I could get behind and there is support for.  It is also distinct from what the article was claiming that 'Muslim lives do not matter'.
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Valmy

#89
February 12, 2015, 03:55:31 PM
Quote from: Siege on February 12, 2015, 03:48:48 PM
Oh shit, double judden attack!
I haven't had one of those in a while.

You going to defend your stupid statement or just spew anti-Semitic attacks? :P
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."
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