Self-proclaimed atheist charged in slayings of North Carolina Muslim students

Started by garbon, February 11, 2015, 09:29:30 PM

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Valmy

Quote from: Siege on February 12, 2015, 12:50:07 PM
Remember when they tried to sell the shooter of that Gilford woman from Arizona as a tea party member?
When they found out the dude was a liberal they tried to hide it, claim the dude was just crazy, not mentioning his politics.

Not really.  But then I don't read your media outlets.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

dps

Quote from: Valmy on February 12, 2015, 03:53:01 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 12, 2015, 12:12:56 PM
What I did find though is something else, which is that every time there is a whiff of something being suspected as perpetrated by a Muslim, it is suddenly an act of terror.

That is, indeed, a good point.  That I could get behind and there is support for.  It is also distinct from what the article was claiming that 'Muslim lives do not matter'.

If the charge that "Muslim lives do not matter" is true, then why is Craig Stephen Hicks under arrest?

garbon

Quote from: dps on February 12, 2015, 05:58:26 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 12, 2015, 03:53:01 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 12, 2015, 12:12:56 PM
What I did find though is something else, which is that every time there is a whiff of something being suspected as perpetrated by a Muslim, it is suddenly an act of terror.

That is, indeed, a good point.  That I could get behind and there is support for.  It is also distinct from what the article was claiming that 'Muslim lives do not matter'.

If the charge that "Muslim lives do not matter" is true, then why is Craig Stephen Hicks under arrest?

Because he turned himself in and admitted to a crime? :huh:
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dps

Quote from: garbon on February 12, 2015, 06:08:38 PM
Quote from: dps on February 12, 2015, 05:58:26 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 12, 2015, 03:53:01 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 12, 2015, 12:12:56 PM
What I did find though is something else, which is that every time there is a whiff of something being suspected as perpetrated by a Muslim, it is suddenly an act of terror.

That is, indeed, a good point.  That I could get behind and there is support for.  It is also distinct from what the article was claiming that 'Muslim lives do not matter'.

If the charge that "Muslim lives do not matter" is true, then why is Craig Stephen Hicks under arrest?

Because he turned himself in and admitted to a crime? :huh:

If Muslim lives don't matter, what's the crime?

garbon

Quote from: dps on February 12, 2015, 06:09:37 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 12, 2015, 06:08:38 PM
Quote from: dps on February 12, 2015, 05:58:26 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 12, 2015, 03:53:01 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 12, 2015, 12:12:56 PM
What I did find though is something else, which is that every time there is a whiff of something being suspected as perpetrated by a Muslim, it is suddenly an act of terror.

That is, indeed, a good point.  That I could get behind and there is support for.  It is also distinct from what the article was claiming that 'Muslim lives do not matter'.

If the charge that "Muslim lives do not matter" is true, then why is Craig Stephen Hicks under arrest?

Because he turned himself in and admitted to a crime? :huh:

If Muslim lives don't matter, what's the crime?

I know you aren't that dense. :hug:
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Siege on February 12, 2015, 03:48:48 PM
Oh shit, double judden attack!
I haven't had one of those in a while.

We were just surprised to see your vigorous defense of Islam against the infidel.   ;)
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Valmy

Quote from: garbon on February 12, 2015, 06:08:38 PM
Because he turned himself in and admitted to a crime? :huh:

Well when he is acquitted then we talk about how "Muslim lives do not matter".
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Malicious Intent

All hail Erdogan, defender of US muslims! 


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-31449973

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Chapel Hill murders: Turkish leader challenges Obama

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has criticised US President Barack Obama for his silence over the murder of three Muslim students in the US.

He said politicians were responsible for events in their countries and had to clarify their stance over them.

More than 5,000 people attended the funeral of the students who were shot dead in North Carolina on Tuesday.

With a suspect in custody, police are still investigating the motive, amid family claims it was a hate crime.

The shootings took place in the town of Chapel Hill. Initial indications are that the gunman, Craig Hicks, acted in a dispute with the victims over a parking space, according to the police.

A district prosecutor said on Wednesday there was no evidence that the victims - Deah Shaddy Barakat, wife Yusor Mohammad and her sister Razan - had been targeted because of their faith.


However, at Thursday's funeral, the local police chief said his force would investigate every lead, including the possibility of a hate crime.

The murders have resonated both within US and around the world, especially on social media. The hashtag ChapelHillShooting has been used hundreds of thousands of times.


Speaking on a visit to Mexico, Mr Erdogan criticised Mr Obama, Secretary of State John Kerry and US Vice-President Joe Biden for not having made any statement about the murder of the "three Muslims".

"If you stay silent when faced with an incident like this, and don't make a statement, the world will stay silent towards you," he said.

"As politicians, we are responsible for everything that happens in our countries and we have to show our positions."

Mr Erdogan is a devout Sunni Muslim who has been increasingly critical of the treatment of Muslims living in Western societies.

His relations with the Obama administration have also come under strain over the conflict in Syria and Iraq.

Turkey and the US are allies in the campaign against Islamic State militants, but differences over tactics have emerged over the last six months.

'Making this country peaceful'

Thursday's funeral was held at the athletic fields of North Carolina State University where all three victims had been students. Police estimate 5,500 people attended the event.

The BBC's Rajini Vaidyanathan says many mourners felt the murders were sparked by something far deeper than a parking row.

"When we say this was a hate crime, it is all about protecting all other children in the USA,'' the father of the two sisters killed in the attack, Dr Mohammad Yousif Abu-Salha, said.

"It's all about making this country that they loved, where they lived and died, peaceful for everybody else.''

Mr Hicks gave himself up to police and has been charged with the murders. His Facebook profile included a photo that read "Atheists for Equality". He also frequently posted quotes critical of religion.

But Mr Hicks's wife Karen said the incident had nothing to do with religion and her husband treated everyone equally. He also apparently had a history of conflicts with neighbours over parking spaces.

Mr Barakat was a dental student at the university and his wife was planning to enrol in the school in the next term.

Muslim and civil rights organisations are organising more vigils across the country for Thursday evening.

There has been criticism of a perceived lack of coverage in the mainstream media with the hashtag MuslimLivesMatter mentioned almost 100,000 times in the day following the shooting.


Valmy

The modern age is bizarre.  This just happened on Tuesday.  It was all over the news on Wednesday.  And somehow that was way too slow for everybody.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."