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Started by Sheilbh, January 02, 2015, 07:26:54 PM

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derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 09, 2015, 03:01:15 PM
Quote from: mongers on January 09, 2015, 02:41:13 PM
No that's why I said a couple ie two; I'm pretty sure most Americans don't hold such proto-racist views.

Asian chicks are submissive.

Latinas are not :(
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

crazy canuck

Quote from: Martinus on January 09, 2015, 03:56:15 PM
Quote from: mongers on January 09, 2015, 03:54:25 PM
Quote from: Valmy on January 09, 2015, 03:51:43 PM
Quote from: Martinus on January 09, 2015, 03:49:00 PM
Salman Rushdie on tonight's Bill Maher. Must watch.  :licklips:

UC Berkeley disapproves.

I'll be genuinely interest to see the languish response to what he says.

The Canadian consensus at least will be that he can't string two sensible sentences together.

No, he will be easily understood.  Except by Berkut who will tell us that he didn't actually say what he said.  And what he does say will simply play to the Islam is evil crowd.  Its all very predictable and not worth watching.

derspiess

Quote from: crazy canuck on January 09, 2015, 03:57:14 PM
I don't plan on watching but I fear Martinus will inflict it on us in some form.  The silver lining is he may stop quoting Piketty and make this his new fount of wisdom just to change things up a bit.

:lol:
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

garbon

If only Martinus was up for fearlessly disrespecting Piketty.
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Legbiter

Houellebecq on amongst other things, Islamophobia. This interview is from the 2nd of this month. Worth a glance.

http://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2015/01/02/scare-tactics-michel-houellebecq-on-his-new-book/
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Duque de Bragança

Already posted on the other attack thread though.


Legbiter

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on January 09, 2015, 04:19:34 PM
Already posted on the other attack thread though.

Bah, thanks for the heads up.
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mongers

I flicked over to RT for 10 minutes to see what they're coverage of the crisis was, actually somewhat 'neutral' as it turned out. And they were interviewing Khaled Mouhameed (excuse spelling, not sure) , British labour MP  for a Birmingham seat. In amongst the expected condemnation and some analysis of the situation British muslims find themselves in, he said British muslim communities have to rise up again this threat.  That was his exact turn of phrase "rise up", very interesting usage, I think he meant British muslims have to reject jihadism and alienate it's advocates within their communities.

Would like to hear more of what he has to say on the subject.
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Duque de Bragança

Quote from: Legbiter on January 09, 2015, 04:24:46 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on January 09, 2015, 04:19:34 PM
Already posted on the other attack thread though.

Bah, thanks for the heads up.

Sorry  :blush:
I believe garbon can muster some necessary disrespect to read it though (I prefer the word irreverence but that's just me). Well, more likely than for him to know what champagne is.

Legbiter

I completely missed the interview being posted in the other thread, lost upon the sea of raz and garbon.  ;)
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Jacob

Quote from: Legbiter on January 09, 2015, 04:42:50 PM
I completely missed the interview being posted in the other thread, lost upon the sea of raz and garbon.  ;)

I read it. Previously my opinion, such as it was, of Houllebecq was based on second hand information. Exposure to his own words did nothing to change that opinion. As for what I thought of the piece itself, that is fairly predictable. I don't think there's a need for me to post a detailed response.

dps

Quote from: mongers on January 09, 2015, 03:48:34 PM

Well it seems some of those who were gun-ho behind you guys on going into Iraq to find those WMDs and terrorist training camps, now seem to have backtracked a lot and consider modern islam a beacon of enlightenment.

I don't think anyone here considers Islam a beacon of enlightenment.

Having said that, there are a lot of us that don't see Muslims (or Jews, or Russian, or blacks) as inherently evil, and are willing to say so.

And I was one of the people who was gung-ho about going into Iraq;  I still say it was the right thing to do.  Yeah, we botched up the occupation and rebuilding, but that's a separate issue. 

If I bought the Grallon/Euro line on Muslims, I wouldn't have supported invading Iraq--I would have just supported the idea of simply glassing it over, along with pretty much everything else from Rabat to Karachi, plus several other locations.

Martinus

Quote from: Legbiter on January 09, 2015, 04:42:50 PM
I completely missed the interview being posted in the other thread, lost upon the sea of raz and garbon.  ;)

That's one sea I'd rather not be lost at.

garbon

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on January 09, 2015, 04:33:00 PM
Quote from: Legbiter on January 09, 2015, 04:24:46 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on January 09, 2015, 04:19:34 PM
Already posted on the other attack thread though.

Bah, thanks for the heads up.

Sorry  :blush:
I believe garbon can muster some necessary disrespect to read it though (I prefer the word irreverence but that's just me). Well, more likely than for him to know what champagne is.

You might like to waste your time reading drivel. I don't. :)
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Martinus

Quote from: Jacob on January 09, 2015, 04:52:06 PM
Quote from: Legbiter on January 09, 2015, 04:42:50 PM
I completely missed the interview being posted in the other thread, lost upon the sea of raz and garbon.  ;)

I read it. Previously my opinion, such as it was, of Houllebecq was based on second hand information. Exposure to his own words did nothing to change that opinion. As for what I thought of the piece itself, that is fairly predictable. I don't think there's a need for me to post a detailed response.

He is right at least in one thing - politically and ideologically speaking, Muslims and right wing Catholics could not be more similar. Thank Heavens Lady Eris made them hate each other so much.