Soldier shot at National War Memorial in Ottawa

Started by viper37, October 22, 2014, 09:35:47 AM

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Malthus

Quote from: 11B4V on October 22, 2014, 04:12:41 PM
So, much for Canadian gun control.

Perp was allegedly using a long gun, which is legal to purchase in Canada.
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Liep

Quote from: 11B4V on October 22, 2014, 04:12:41 PM
So, much for Canadian gun control.

I feel the comma is saving that sentence from being utter garbage.
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Josephus

Quote from: Malthus on October 22, 2014, 04:16:03 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on October 22, 2014, 04:12:41 PM
So, much for Canadian gun control.

Perp was allegedly using a long gun, which is legal to purchase in Canada.


And doesn't have to register it.....for some reason   :hmm:
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derspiess

Quote from: Sheilbh on October 22, 2014, 04:14:59 PM
Yep. There's a reason they're buying Islam for Dummies before getting on a plane to Syria. I always think there's a lot to the view in Four Lions. Contra Grallon it's the guys in beards and shalwar kameezes that you shouldn't worry about.

These guys in beards don't have any role in radicalizing the converts?
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Quote from: derspiess on October 22, 2014, 04:44:54 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on October 22, 2014, 04:14:59 PM
Yep. There's a reason they're buying Islam for Dummies before getting on a plane to Syria. I always think there's a lot to the view in Four Lions. Contra Grallon it's the guys in beards and shalwar kameezes that you shouldn't worry about.

These guys in beards don't have any role in radicalizing the converts?

They are buying islam for dummies since all they know is what the guys with beards dressed in bedsheets tell them. Unfortunately for the world that is kill/murder/rape as they are instructed to do in the koran and as the prophet did as the example they are to follow.
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A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Josephus on October 22, 2014, 04:41:23 PM
Quote from: Malthus on October 22, 2014, 04:16:03 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on October 22, 2014, 04:12:41 PM
So, much for Canadian gun control.

Perp was allegedly using a long gun, which is legal to purchase in Canada.


And doesn't have to register it.....for some reason   :hmm:

True, but as I was hearing the reports coming in this morning I reflected on how much worse it could have been if this guy had ready access to the kind of weaponry Americans can purchase.

Josephus

Quote from: crazy canuck on October 22, 2014, 06:16:48 PM
Quote from: Josephus on October 22, 2014, 04:41:23 PM
Quote from: Malthus on October 22, 2014, 04:16:03 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on October 22, 2014, 04:12:41 PM
So, much for Canadian gun control.

Perp was allegedly using a long gun, which is legal to purchase in Canada.


And doesn't have to register it.....for some reason   :hmm:

True, but as I was hearing the reports coming in this morning I reflected on how much worse it could have been if this guy had ready access to the kind of weaponry Americans can purchase.

On that there can be no argument.
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mongers

Quote from: Sheilbh on October 22, 2014, 04:14:59 PM
Quote from: Malthus on October 22, 2014, 10:53:03 AM
I came in to remark on this - rumour has it that the sergeant-at-arms for the House of Commons personally shot an assailant - pretty sure that's a first.
:o Wow. Did Black Rod personally arrest him too? :mellow:

QuoteWhich again points to below intelligence attackers, no doubt vulnerable/isolated individuals latching onto or being indoctrinated by skilled preachers/activists. And ending up doing something stupid, in a stupid way, for a stupid cause and ending with a stupid waste of life.
Yep. There's a reason they're buying Islam for Dummies before getting on a plane to Syria. I always think there's a lot to the view in Four Lions. Contra Grallon it's the guys in beards and shalwar kameezes that you shouldn't worry about.

Yeah, that's a great film, truthful, funny and  tragic. And from who else but Mr Brassneck.  :cool:
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viper37

Quote from: Malthus on October 22, 2014, 04:07:14 PM
Quote from: viper37 on October 22, 2014, 03:25:25 PM
As expected, homegrown.
QuoteLaw enforcement and U.S. government sources tell CBS News the dead shooting suspect is Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, born 1982, and he is believed to be Canadian-born.

EDIT: from Montreal. <sigh>

The message is obvious: we cannot trust people from Quebec.


;)
I was gonna say we cannot trust people from Montreal ;)
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viper37

Quote from: Malthus on October 22, 2014, 04:16:03 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on October 22, 2014, 04:12:41 PM
So, much for Canadian gun control.

Perp was allegedly using a long gun, which is legal to purchase in Canada.
Most guns are legal for purchase in Canada, you just can't buy them at a Wal-Mart on a sunday morning ;)

Those that can't be bought legally can be bought illegally.  It's about as hard to find as drugs.
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viper37

Quote from: Grey Fox on October 22, 2014, 08:26:36 PM
Ammo is the hard part, no?
It's getting the license to own a non hunting rifle that is hard.
You need to belong to a shooting club, be a hunter, be a collector or prove you really need a gun.  Then the cops check on you, and if everything clears, you may be allowed to buy one.
Some models available in the US are totally forbidden though, but not that many.

And if the non hunting rifles aren't registered, you can not legally buy ammo.
Hunting rifles like the one used are ok outside of Quebec.

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Syt

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After a tragic day in Ottawa, the NHL and the Pittsburgh Penguins proved that they are about more than just hockey. The Penguins decided to play the Canadian national anthem prior to their game against the Philadelphia Flyers Wednesday night.

The lyrics to "O Canada" were placed on the scoreboard to encourage fan participation in the singing of both anthems. It was a touching moment that emphasized that this is more than just a game.

Fans and Canadians showed their appreciation to the Penguins on Twitter.

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The Sergeant-at-Arms killed the gunman  :cool:

I think Mr Vickers can expect another medal from her maj soon  :cool: