US public transportation stats - 10 best cities

[Valmy]

Damn Austin is only #39?  I feel sorry for those poor bastards lower than us.

[crazy canuck]

My god. If San Fran is #2 then we're in really sad shape.

I found it very easy to get around in that city without a car.  What do you see as the problem? 

[Savonarola]

Damn Austin is only #39?  I feel sorry for those poor bastards lower than us.

Detroit was #34.  The city of Detroit doesn't do any better a job running buses than it does balancing the budget, picking up garbage or lighting the streets.   For political reasons the city buses and the metropolitan buses are separate systems which run on entirely unrelated schedules.  I can't imagine there's a system that's actually worse than that.

[MadImmortalMan]

My god. If San Fran is #2 then we're in really sad shape.

I found it very easy to get around in that city without a car.  What do you see as the problem?

The problem isn't that SF is really terrible, it's that it's #2. It's not that good, just ok. Though it is terrible if you do have a car.

[garbon]

Though it is terrible if you do have a car.

Now as someone who lived in SF with a car, that is just crazy pants.

[MadImmortalMan]

Where did you keep your car? Did you pay $30 a day to park it?

Edit: Don't say Palm Springs. 

[garbon]

Where did you keep your car? Did you pay $30 a day to park it?

Edit: Don't say Palm Springs. 

I kept my car at my apartment. I also used it frequently get groceries as my local grocery store* had a parking lot.

*CC don't hate me.

[Admiral Yi]

The problem isn't that SF is really terrible, it's that it's #2. It's not that good, just ok.

Meaning it's a sad reflection on US public transport that SF is 2, or you think another city is better?

I've experienced NYC, DC, and Boston and those relative rankings seem right.  NYC is no doubt numero uno.  DC and Boston are comparable.

[MadImmortalMan]

Meaning it's a sad reflection on US public transport that SF is 2

Yes. That's what I meant.

[Caliga]

I think I could do Santa Monica.

Also Santa Barbara, Newport Beach, the Lagunas, Palm Springs, etc.

Basically everything on the fringes of LA itself is ok.  LA, not so much.

[CountDeMoney]

I kept my car at my apartment. I also used it frequently get groceries as my local grocery store* had a parking lot.

*CC don't hate me.

[garbon]

I think I could do Santa Monica.

Also Santa Barbara, Newport Beach, the Lagunas, Palm Springs, etc.

Basically everything on the fringes of LA itself is ok.  LA, not so much.

Would you consider San Diego on the fringe of LA?

[Caliga]

Not really.  I'd say Dana Point/San Clemente is pretty much the southern end, and San Diego is like another hour south.

[celedhring]

I spent a week in LA using only public transportation since I don't drive, and if that's #3 then you're in serious trouble.

[Eddie Teach]

I spent a week in LA using only public transportation since I don't drive, and if that's #3 then you're in serious trouble.

Only trouble if we don't have a car.