Dispatches from the State Ministry of Truth

[garbon]

Blues marching to support the police.  Do they look like thugs?

No.  But then, nobody was labeling peaceful counter-marchers or ribbon makers as thugs.

From his 4 posts in a row, it is clear Mono just needs time to play in his sandbox.

[DGuller]

Is he DGuller as we always thought?

Yes.

[DGuller]

I must say that after reading the whole thread and Mono's pettiness and apparent glee at having a bunch of kids with extremely bleak life prospects who are actually willing to stand up for what they believe manhandled by riot police, while spewing against them as he has never ever done before in this forums, coupled with his incredibly and mind bogingly myopic perspective of life has turned him into an extremely unsavoury character for me. I don't care if it's a schtick or not, it's fucking disgusting.

Well said.  I have never been so utterly disgusted by any poster on Languish like this.  Not even when Martinus told Raz to kill himself.  Mono's incredibly Orwellian take on the "rioters" I can still sort of understand, but his attitude towards the plight of the "losers" is callous and sadistic.

[Admiral Yi]

Get me the cop's name and phone number Mono.

[Monoriu]

I must say that after reading the whole thread and Mono's pettiness and apparent glee at having a bunch of kids with extremely bleak life prospects who are actually willing to stand up for what they believe manhandled by riot police, while spewing against them as he has never ever done before in this forums, coupled with his incredibly and mind bogingly myopic perspective of life has turned him into an extremely unsavoury character for me. I don't care if it's a schtick or not, it's fucking disgusting.

Well said.  I have never been so utterly disgusted by any poster on Languish like this.  Not even when Martinus told Raz to kill himself.  Mono's incredibly Orwellian take on the "rioters" I can still sort of understand, but his attitude towards the plight of the "losers" is callous and sadistic.

Something for everyone eh? 

[Syt]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-29488002

Hong Kong protests: Police arrest 'triad gang' members

Police in Hong Kong have arrested 19 people, including suspected members of triad gangs accused of attacking pro-democracy protesters.

The scuffles on Friday led to the postponement of talks between the demonstrators and the government.

Police officers deny claims that they have colluded with those who used violence against the demonstrators.

Activists are protesting against plans by China to vet election candidates and have been occupying parts of the city.

Hong Kong's leader earlier this week offered talks to defuse the situation in China's special administrative region.

But the clashes broke out as people apparently angry with the disruption caused by the protests tried to dismantle tents and barricades.

On Saturday morning the atmosphere on the streets was calm.

'Broken promise'
On Friday, the Hong Kong Federation of Students, which was invited to negotiations with the government, said in a statement it had "shelved" the talks. A time and place for the negotiations had never been confirmed.

"The government allowed the mafia to attack peaceful Occupy participants. It has cut off the path to a dialogue, and should be responsible for the consequences," it said.

It was not clear whether the statement reflected the position of other groups involved in the protest.

Occupy Central leader Benny Tai told the BBC they were still only considering a boycott of the talks. However, he said police were not protecting the demonstrators against attacks by their opponents and this situation could not continue.

"It's very, very difficult to maintain any sense of dialogue if the government does not stop these things happening to peaceful protesters," he said.

There was no immediate response from the government to the postponement.

But at a news conference on Friday night, police gave their account of events.

They denied accusations by the protesters that they had acted in concert with forces trying to break up the protest.

They said that among the 19 people arrested eight had "triad backgrounds", referring to local criminal gangs.

Their very presence there is a reminder that not everyone in Hong Kong is on the side of the protesters, the BBC's Martin Patience in Hong Kong says.

At least some of the protesters' opponents appear to be local residents angered by the disruption.

"I don't support Occupy Central. We have to work and make money. Occupy is just a game," said a construction worker who gave his name as Mr Lee, quoted by AFP news agency.

"We Hong Kongers need to eat!" another said.

'Doomed to fail'
At the heart of the row is how Hong Kong elects its next leader. In August, Beijing imposed tight rules on nominations for candidates wanting to stand for election.

The protesters say this move means that the polls will fall short of the free elections they are seeking.

Several days into their week-long demonstrations, the protesters added the demand that Chief Executive CY Leung step down.

The central government in Beijing has thrown its full support behind Mr Leung, calling the protests illegal and "doomed to fail".

[Monoriu]

It is Mong Kok, Hong Kong's red light district.  Full of bars, brothels, Mah Jong gambling places (i.e. mini-casinos), CD/DVD shops.  The folks who operate those are triads.  You block the roads, you cut off their business.  Of course they are pissed.

[Tonitrus]

A scene from Mong Kok of the anti-protestors...

[Admiral Yi]

  Nice.

[Tonitrus]

It is Mong Kok, Hong Kong's red light district.  Full of bars, brothels, Mah Jong gambling places (i.e. mini-casinos), CD/DVD shops.  The folks who operate those are triads.  You block the roads, you cut off their business.  Of course they are pissed.

Why don't the police clean out all of the Triads instead of the protestors? 

[Monoriu]

It is Mong Kok, Hong Kong's red light district.  Full of bars, brothels, Mah Jong gambling places (i.e. mini-casinos), CD/DVD shops.  The folks who operate those are triads.  You block the roads, you cut off their business.  Of course they are pissed.

Why don't the police clean out all of the Triads instead of the protestors? 

Those are largely victimless crimes.  And CD/DVD stuff are outside police.  Copyright infringement is Customs 

[Monoriu]

Local business groups are planning to file civil suits aginst rioters for loss of business.  They've been saying this for a year, but I am not sure how they can pursue.  I don't even know who the defendent should be, as there are so many different groups involved, with no clear organisation or leader.  Even if in the unlikely event that the courts grant them an injunction order or something, the rioters will pay zero attention because they are in it for the attention. 

[Martinus]

Local business groups are planning to file civil suits aginst rioters for loss of business.  They've been saying this for a year, but I am not sure how they can pursue.  I don't even know who the defendent should be, as there are so many different groups involved, with no clear organisation or leader.  Even if in the unlikely event that the courts grant them an injunction order or something, the rioters will pay zero attention because they are in it for the attention.

I was going to respond but... Oh go fuck yourself already, you horrible little man.

[Syt]

Those are largely victimless crimes.

What do you consider to be victimless crimes?

[Zanza]

Those are largely victimless crimes.

What do you consider to be victimless crimes?

Gambling, prostitution, counterfeiting goods etc.

As long as you don't block a road, you are good in Mono's book.