Dispatches from the State Ministry of Truth

[Monoriu]

I have a secret...

Protesters block buildings/infrastructure because, if they didn't, the protests would be ignored/ineffective. 

I have a secret too.  The standing committee members in Beijing won't change their minds even if you occupy some roads in HK.   

[Tonitrus]

And that is how you end up with bloody revolutions. 

[Monoriu]

And that is how you end up with bloody revolutions. 

There has been no bloody revolution after Tian An Men. 

[Zanza]

There has been no bloody revolution after Tian An Men.

Yet.

[jimmy olsen]

And that is how you end up with bloody revolutions. 

There has been no bloody revolution after Tian An Men.

Because the Chinese middle class wasn't big enough yet. At one point it will be.

[Monoriu]

There has been no bloody revolution after Tian An Men.

Yet.

It has been 25 years. That's long enough by any standard.

[Monoriu]

And that is how you end up with bloody revolutions. 

There has been no bloody revolution after Tian An Men.

Because the Chinese middle class wasn't big enough yet. At one point it will be.

The Chinese middle class is already gigantic. 

[jimmy olsen]

And that is how you end up with bloody revolutions. 

There has been no bloody revolution after Tian An Men.

Because the Chinese middle class wasn't big enough yet. At one point it will be.

The Chinese middle class is already gigantic.

Then every significant massacre or economic down turn from here now runs the serious risk of spawning a revolution.

[Monoriu]

Then every significant massacre or economic down turn from here now runs the serious risk of spawning a revolution.

That's true. 

[Zanza]

There has been no bloody revolution after Tian An Men.

Yet.

It has been 25 years. That's long enough by any standard.

The last 25 years must be some of the best in Chinese history. Never before have so many people been freed from poverty. And young people had lots of chances to better their lot in life.
But if young mainland Chinese would face the same situation that young Hongkongnese (is that a word? ) face right now, it could quickly lead to considerable unrest.

[Martinus]

If revolution comes, do we have Mono's real name to send to the Committee of Public Safety?

[The Larch]

I must say that after reading the whole thread and Mono's pettiness and apparent glee at having a bunch of kids with extremely bleak life prospects who are actually willing to stand up for what they believe manhandled by riot police, while spewing against them as he has never ever done before in this forums, coupled with his incredibly and mind bogingly myopic perspective of life has turned him into an extremely unsavoury character for me. I don't care if it's a schtick or not, it's fucking disgusting.

[Martinus]

I must say that after reading the whole thread and Mono's pettiness and apparent glee at having a bunch of kids with extremely bleak life prospects who are actually willing to stand up for what they believe manhandled by riot police, while spewing against them as he has never ever done before in this forums, coupled with his incredibly and mind bogingly myopic perspective of life has turned him into an extremely unsavoury character for me. I don't care if it's a schtick or not, it's fucking disgusting.

Can't say I disagree. With the likes of Hortlund and dorsey gone, I think he might be the person with the most despicable proffessed views on the board right now.

[Tamas]

On the other hand if he is caught commenting pro-protest stuff with his IP, he can kiss his career good bye

[Tamas]

Plus this is something I am already noticing on some of the Hungarians i know: having accepted the regime as inevitable and un-toppable, they start to grow annoyed at attacks against it (despite never liking it and still not liking it), and perceive them as steering up unnecessary trouble