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Started by viper37, September 06, 2014, 05:51:27 PM

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viper37

Quote from: Valmy on September 05, 2014, 08:19:39 PM
Anyway nothing to do but just hope the Scots end up doing the right thing.
So you support scottish independance?
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Ideologue

Quote from: viper37 on September 06, 2014, 05:52:41 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 05, 2014, 09:09:36 PM
Faceless corporations and rich fucks in general have a lot easier time subverting tiny nations than they do real ones.
so, everything is fine in the US, I guess? :)

Alright.  That's a palpable hit.
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viper37

Quote from: Valmy on September 06, 2014, 11:03:55 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 06, 2014, 05:52:41 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 05, 2014, 09:09:36 PM
Faceless corporations and rich fucks in general have a lot easier time subverting tiny nations than they do real ones.
so, everything is fine in the US, I guess? :)

Clearly all of our problems would be solved if we split into a bunch of smaller countries.
Had the South been allowed to secede, do you think things would be better or worst for the rest of the USA?
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If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

viper37

Quote from: Valmy on September 06, 2014, 10:26:09 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 06, 2014, 05:51:27 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 05, 2014, 08:19:39 PM
Anyway nothing to do but just hope the Scots end up doing the right thing.
So you support scottish independance?

Of course not.  It is based on lies and vanity.
If the Scots decide to secede, that means you believe a majority of them are vane and believe in lies?


Anyway, I read this morning that UK government is about to offer much more autonomy to Scotland.  I'm just wondering why is it that they now recognize there is a problem of governance while there was none 5-10 years ago?  It just looks like Canada where politicians, and militant, suddenly realize there is a problem when things go horribly wrong for their option.
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If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

viper37

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 07, 2014, 12:19:37 PM
The country would have been weakened which would be worse for the world.
The Congress would not be paralyzed.  You would not have to subsidy those states, there would never have been such a huge loss of life, there would have been 0$ invested by the North to rebuild the South, and eventually, Massachussets industries could have delocalized their production to Alabama or Mississipi instead of China. ;)
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: viper37 on September 07, 2014, 04:08:22 PM
The Congress would not be paralyzed.  You would not have to subsidy those states, there would never have been such a huge loss of life, there would have been 0$ invested by the North to rebuild the South, and eventually, Massachussets industries could have delocalized their production to Alabama or Mississipi instead of China. ;)

I look forward to Quebec's next vote of secession, when they vote yes and start their inevitable transformation to Haiti.

;)
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viper37

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 07, 2014, 04:13:10 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 07, 2014, 04:08:22 PM
The Congress would not be paralyzed.  You would not have to subsidy those states, there would never have been such a huge loss of life, there would have been 0$ invested by the North to rebuild the South, and eventually, Massachussets industries could have delocalized their production to Alabama or Mississipi instead of China. ;)

I look forward to Quebec's next vote of secession, when they vote yes and start their inevitable transformation to Haiti.

;)
with the current PQ, it's likely to happen :(
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

viper37

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 07, 2014, 04:35:51 PM
There's also rumours that the Scottish Sun will back independence, over the howls of the London editor of The Sun.
Would they have done so if the polls were reversed?
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Valmy

Quote from: viper37 on September 07, 2014, 11:59:49 AM
Quote from: Valmy on September 06, 2014, 11:03:55 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 06, 2014, 05:52:41 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 05, 2014, 09:09:36 PM
Faceless corporations and rich fucks in general have a lot easier time subverting tiny nations than they do real ones.
so, everything is fine in the US, I guess? :)

Clearly all of our problems would be solved if we split into a bunch of smaller countries.
Had the South been allowed to secede, do you think things would be better or worst for the rest of the USA?

Worse.  Having a large hostile nation next door is probably not going to end well.  Plus they would have controlled most of the shoreline.
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Quote from: Tamas on September 06, 2014, 12:52:51 PM
Quote from: Grallon on September 05, 2014, 08:53:28 PM

Ask yourself if you'd still like to be part of Austria-Hungary?


G.

Hells yeah.


Oh look - a self hating Magyar! 

Once again we in Quebec know all about it.  We  have boatloads of self-hating Quebecers here who preferred, when asked (twice), to stay within Canada and cozy it up to an Anglo majority that despises them - rather than assuming who and what they are, that is to say: their own distinct nation.  As Sheilbh mentioned already this is about identity - not about money grubbing.  However, and contrary to the Scots, a significant portion of my own people feel they don't deserve to be what they know they are.  Talk about psychological scars...

EDIT: I pray for a YES victory so that Quebecers are shown that it *is* possible to be one's own man rather than somebody else's bitch.



G.
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Martinus

Quote from: Ideologue on September 07, 2014, 10:35:35 PM
Why is it self-hating to wish to be absorbed into a better, larger, more diverse culture? :unsure:


Yeah. Especially, as the only thing more despicable than a Frenchman or a Belgian that I can think of is a Quebecois. I'd rather be British than a cheese-eating surrender monkey.

Grallon

Quote from: Ideologue on September 07, 2014, 10:35:35 PM
Why is it self-hating to wish to be absorbed into a better, larger, more diverse culture? :unsure:

Anyway, if you lived in Hungary, you'd probably be self-hating too.


Well I suppose 'wishing to be absorbed' is good enough for those without any personality to speak of.  But for those who do have an identity, individual or collective, being absorbed isn't a choice.  Oh and in the future - do *not* presume to speak for me you fucking little wanna be lawyer!



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Quote from: Martinus on September 07, 2014, 11:31:53 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 07, 2014, 10:35:35 PM
Why is it self-hating to wish to be absorbed into a better, larger, more diverse culture? :unsure:


Yeah. Especially, as the only thing more despicable than a Frenchman or a Belgian that I can think of is a Quebecois. I'd rather be British than a cheese-eating surrender monkey.

Well Fuck you too. Remind me to not vote for your reinstatement next time you get banned for spewing faschist insult. You sure you aren't russian now?
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Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 07, 2014, 04:13:10 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 07, 2014, 04:08:22 PM
The Congress would not be paralyzed.  You would not have to subsidy those states, there would never have been such a huge loss of life, there would have been 0$ invested by the North to rebuild the South, and eventually, Massachussets industries could have delocalized their production to Alabama or Mississipi instead of China. ;)

I look forward to Quebec's next vote of secession, when they vote yes and start their inevitable transformation to Haiti.

;)

So you think independence would benefit Quebec?

viper37

Quote from: Grallon on September 07, 2014, 09:47:47 PM
Oh look - a self hating Magyar! 

Once again we in Quebec know all about it.  We  have boatloads of self-hating Quebecers here who preferred, when asked (twice), to stay within Canada and cozy it up to an Anglo majority that despises them - rather than assuming who and what they are, that is to say: their own distinct nation.  As Sheilbh mentioned already this is about identity - not about money grubbing.  However, and contrary to the Scots, a significant portion of my own people feel they don't deserve to be what they know they are.  Talk about psychological scars...

EDIT: I pray for a YES victory so that Quebecers are shown that it *is* possible to be one's own man rather than somebody else's bitch.



G.
it is a testament to the incompetence of the PQ leadership that they lost twice to the exact same tactics.  As if they were totally unprepared.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.